I guess Murray's value is officially in the toilet to people on this site. He might as well be a cap dump.

Average fan of Chicago, Buffalo, and every other team that needs a goalie - "Literally the worst goalie to ever exist. You would have to give up two 1st rounders just to get a 7th back for him. He actually has negative trade value and should be ashamed of himself for existing. How dare Penguins fans suggest he's worth even a mid 2nd round pick. He belongs in the AHL actually. Like why would we trade a 2nd rounder for an AHL goalie? Why would any team do that? We'll take Jarry though."

Lmfao nailed it

He is also giving up Hallander to move Johnson so...

And a pick to Detroit to take on that cap hit

Why would Detroit want Jack Johnson? The only players Detroit has interest in from Pittsburgh is either Jarry or Murray nothing else.

That’s why Hallander is attached instead of draft picks.

Not interested in a 33 year old LD making $3.25m for 3 more seasons even with Hallender attached.

I’m sure Pitt fans don’t want to sell Hallander either. They’d probably much rather retain a little on JJ and ship him off and retain Hallander. I’m guessing you’d want a first round pick or Murray to take JJ?