Quoting: Capitalfail67
that's 8x more but im not also out here glorifying Matthews defensive game.. his defensive game has greatly improved but id hardly give him the Selke. I wouldn't wouldn't put him on the ice in the last minute up by a goal. both are talented young players. the gap between them is minimal. Matthews has more talent surrounding him but hard to diminish his accomplishments bc of it. Eichel has way less talent around him but people tend to use that a s a crutch as to why hes having less success. Crosby had Recchi and john leclair. Ovechkin played with Dainius Zubrus Jeff Halpern. Generational talent makes the surrounding players better....
nor am i giving him the selke, nor even putting him in the conversation right now, but there are lots of good defensive players that dont get nominated, just because youre not the best doesnt mean you cant be good or getting better,
exactly my point throughout this whole thing, mcadvid plays with scrubs, crsoby won a cup with sheary and dom simon as his wingers, chris kunitz is who he is because of sid, matthews played with kap and johnsson last year, arent bad players but there are better he could have been playing with, he still did ok, tavares played with scrubs in new york, still managed to do ok for himself, people love to use this argument for eichel and also for taylor hall but its pretty bs if you ask me,