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Whose better Jack eichel or Auston Matthews

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6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 9
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Quoting: Bf3351
It's obvious, Jack Eichel.


not zach kassian?
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 10
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Much better defensively lmfao


You'd know that if you watched the games
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6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 12
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It's incredibly close, Eichel is one of my top 3 favourite players but if I had to choose one to build my team around I would lean Matthews right now.


You would lean towards the guy getting paid 11.6M+ for 5 years over a guy getting paid 10M for 7 more years? Lol
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 14
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Quoting: vr1995
at this point in their careers they are both so close, but the slight edge has to go to matthews at this point, sure eichel has "no one" on his team, jeff skinner scored 40 goals last year then crapped the bed, evander kane was solid, reinhart was a 2nd overall pick, and theres more, eichel having underperforming teammates shouldnt hurt matthews case in this argument,


Kane hasn't been a sabre in over 2 years
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 14
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Much better defensively lmfao


It's like a broken record. Can't even argue. I didn't understand the argument the first 50 times its been had on here, but I think I get it now thanks to Jared.
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6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 14
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I go with Matthews here. My only bias is that I don't like Toronto (Detroit fan). smile
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 14
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You would lean towards the guy getting paid 11.6M+ for 5 years over a guy getting paid 10M for 7 more years? Lol


Im just on awe of this, pretending the contract was even a measure of who is better at hockey. See, this is that anti leaf bias in full effect. Bask in the glory of the unhinged 'gotta find something ' angle some people take. It's astounding as it is moronic
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 15
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Kane hasn't been a sabre in over 2 years


agreed but he was still a good player when he was, im saying the narrative that eichel always has garbage on his team is getting old
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 16
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It's like a broken record. Can't even argue. I didn't understand the argument the first 50 times its been had on here, but I think I get it now thanks to Jared.


thats because there is no argument? I mean, he is, and all buffalo fans and weirdos like BF say is 'nuh uh!' Despite the evidence against. And then back it up with 'matthews plays in a better team!'
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 16
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Quoting: Smithcd995
It's like a broken record. Can't even argue. I didn't understand the argument the first 50 times its been had on here, but I think I get it now thanks to Jared.


That's Jared for you. I've had him on my ignore list for a long time now. He thinks everyone outside of Toronto is garbage lol. I can't wait to watch the Leafs lose to CBJ in the 1st round and have a shot in his honor.
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 17
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
thats because there is no argument? I mean, he is, and all buffalo fans and weirdos like BF say is 'nuh uh!' Despite the evidence against. And then back it up with 'matthews plays in a better team!'


Dude, I get it. Chill man. Just chill.
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 17
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Eichel, he put up similar to better stats than matthews on a much lower scoring team, and instead of tavares to take the pressure off his line, he had curtis lazar, evan rodrigues and marcus johansson.

plus toronto fans like to say players like reinhart are only good because of eichel, while ignoring their wingers that play with matthews and complained bitterly when matthews got paid more than eichel.
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 19
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Dude, I get it. Chill man. Just chill.


Ok sure? What did you expect though?
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 20
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That's Jared for you. I've had him on my ignore list for a long time now. He thinks everyone outside of Toronto is garbage lol. I can't wait to watch the Leafs lose to CBJ in the 1st round and have a shot in his honor.


Settle down dude, we cant all have reinart or kassian on our playoff rosters instead of mitch marner
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6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 21
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Ok sure? What did you expect though?


I literally started by saying the argument has been had on here a million times.. Yet here you are arguing the same things. Said Eichel was better mockingly and you can't show any restraint other than to post 20 times for the same **** that's been said many times. It's such a boring topic.
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 24
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I literally started by saying the argument has been had on here a million times.. Yet here you are arguing the same things. Said Eichel was better mockingly and you can't show any restraint other than to post 20 times for the same **** that's been said many times. It's such a boring topic.


So you never stopped to think that i was posting the same thing sarcastically in response? Cause i was, then you doubled down by going along with mr leaf hater himself, so the sarcasm kinda wained.
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 29
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So you never stopped to think that i was posting the same thing sarcastically in response? Cause i was, then you doubled down by going along with mr leaf hater himself, so the sarcasm kinda wained.


1- I never said anything at all about the leafs whatsoever. Re-read.
2- I've been mocking you the entire time. Again, re-read.
3- People (myself in this instance) don't hate the Leafs they hate dumb*ss fans who have to drive their points into the ground repeatedly whenever mildly questioned. Every fanbase has that guy and today you get to wear the crown. You can be right in the debate. Hell, it may even be probable. We can revisit in 15 years. But nobody cares to hear the same arguments a billion times because you're triggered.
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6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 34
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1- I never said anything at all about the leafs whatsoever. Re-read.
2- I've been mocking you the entire time. Again, re-read.
3- People (myself in this instance) don't hate the Leafs they hate dumb*ss fans who have to drive their points into the ground repeatedly whenever mildly questioned. Every fanbase has that guy and today you get to wear the crown. You can be right in the debate. Hell, it may even be probable. We can revisit in 15 years. But nobody cares to hear the same arguments a billion times because you're triggered.


1-i said you sided with the idiot, not that you mentioned the leafs.
2-im aware, i was playing along until you sided with the idiot, so i reiterated the points i knew you clearly hated.
3- if you go into a thread about a debate that youve heard a million times, you dont get to pretend to be offended that you hear the same argument for the millionth time, especially when you go around poking people with sticks to try and get them to voice the argument again. If you wanna revisit in 15 years, stop coming to these threads for 15 years

And using triggered? Cmon dude, what are you, 16?
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6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 38
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You'd know that if you watched the games


Matthews plays pk? obviously he should... I wonder who plays more PK time? Matthews is defensively sound so youd imagine the coach would trust him playing PK, right?
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 42
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1-i said you sided with the idiot, not that you mentioned the leafs.
2-im aware, i was playing along until you sided with the idiot, so i reiterated the points i knew you clearly hated.
3- if you go into a thread about a debate that youve heard a million times, you dont get to pretend to be offended that you hear the same argument for the millionth time, especially when you go around poking people with sticks to try and get them to voice the argument again. If you wanna revisit in 15 years, stop coming to these threads for 15 years

And using triggered? Cmon dude, what are you, 16?


You quoted my completely rational post about how stupid it was only to go on an irrational rant that you go on every single time, because you think the world is unfair to leafs fans. Otherwise I'd be silent. No idea who the idiot is idk what that's about. And yes I used triggered whatever the shoe fits. Should've just used tantrum.
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 42
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Matthews plays pk? obviously he should... I wonder who plays more PK time? Matthews is defensively sound so youd imagine the coach would trust him playing PK, right?


eichel has a whopping 16 seconds per game compared to matthews 2 seconds, i think you just cracked the code and answered this question once and for all, good job!
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6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 47
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Matthews plays pk? obviously he should... I wonder who plays more PK time? Matthews is defensively sound so youd imagine the coach would trust him playing PK, right?


Neither of them play significantly shorthanded,and pretending short handed ice time is an indicator of over all defensive abilities is pretty funny considering that it's mostly systems based and very very very few players like matthews or eichel play the pk.
But since you asked, eichel played an average of 32 seconds to matthews 2. Excited to see how that matters in regards to the over all point
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 47
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Matthews plays pk? obviously he should... I wonder who plays more PK time? Matthews is defensively sound so youd imagine the coach would trust him playing PK, right?


Neither of them play significantly shorthanded,and pretending short handed ice time is an indicator of over all defensive abilities is pretty funny considering that it's mostly systems based and very very very few players like matthews or eichel play the pk.
But since you asked, eichel played an average of 32 seconds to matthews 2. Excited to see how that matters in regards to the over all point
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 51
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You quoted my completely rational post about how stupid it was only to go on an irrational rant that you go on every single time, because you think the world is unfair to leafs fans. Otherwise I'd be silent. No idea who the idiot is idk what that's about. And yes I used triggered whatever the shoe fits. Should've just used tantrum.


Yes, completely rational to think that people here would never be biased against a team they clearly hate, silly me

Now, you seem at least semi rational so ill let you look up triggered and why using it in a silly meaningless hockey debate is a really dickheaded and ignorant thing to do, but lets just say it's not some harmless term you should be throwing around because the mean man disagreed.
6 juill. 2020 à 12 h 52
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Quoting: vr1995
eichel has a whopping 16 seconds per game compared to matthews 2 seconds, i think you just cracked the code and answered this question once and for all, good job!


that's 8x more but im not also out here glorifying Matthews defensive game.. his defensive game has greatly improved but id hardly give him the Selke. I wouldn't wouldn't put him on the ice in the last minute up by a goal. both are talented young players. the gap between them is minimal. Matthews has more talent surrounding him but hard to diminish his accomplishments bc of it. Eichel has way less talent around him but people tend to use that a s a crutch as to why hes having less success. Crosby had Recchi and john leclair. Ovechkin played with Dainius Zubrus Jeff Halpern. Generational talent makes the surrounding players better....
 
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