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My Take on TBL Cap Crunch

Créé par: UpsideDownQue
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 5 juill. 2020
Publié: 5 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Have to ask a lot of players to waive NTC or submit their trade lists but its possible. Every single one of these trades involves a player with an NTC or M-NTC

Bridge deals ftw

This doesnt solve their cap problems, it just delays it for 1 more year. They will probably have to get rid of a couple big contracts in the 2021 offseason

Trade valuations may not be even, but a lot of it will depend on the NTCs and trade lists, so they may not get the same return they would otherwise
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
34 500 000 $
24 500 000 $
12 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
TBL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (COL)
COL
  1. Palat, Ondrej
Détails additionnels:
assuming he waives his NTC
2.
TBL
  1. Staal, Eric (1 625 000 $ retained)
MIN
  1. Johnson, Tyler
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
MIN gets younger and gets a serviceable 2C with a pick for taking on the extra cap hit and retaining
3.
TBL
EDM
  1. Killorn, Alex
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
4.
TBL
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Russell, Kris
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (COL)
Rachats de contrats
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2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 334 257 $0 $500 000 $2 165 743 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 4
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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0 $0 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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5 166 666 $5 166 666 $
C, AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 5
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
G
UFA - 8
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
833 333 $833 333 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
759 258 $759 258 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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6 juill. 2020 à 15 h 0
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Yes and I keep having to remind you that I fully understand but its not their decisions, its the players decision and this whole phantom theory that they get to choose a better destination because they have a full no trade doesnt make sense because theyre not going to put teams on their trade list that they have 0 interest going to. Your theory is nonsensical.


well obviously they wont waive a full NTC to go somewhere they have no interest in, I never suggested they do that. They would only waive their full NTC if they would actually like to live in the city that they would waive for. If Tampa told them they could either waive their full NTC now in order to go to a team of their choice or not waive their NTC now and go to a much worse team/city next year I think its pretty clear what the better option is. The players may have the final say but the team can make the choice difficult for them.

Again, im not saying this is for sure what will happen, im just outlining a specific case in which it may be beneficial for players to want to waive now rather than being traded later. I think it makes perfect sense in these circumstances
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well obviously they wont waive a full NTC to go somewhere they have no interest in, I never suggested they do that. They would only waive their full NTC if they would actually like to live in the city that they would waive for. If Tampa told them they could either waive their full NTC now in order to go to a team of their choice or not waive their NTC now and go to a much worse team/city next year I think its pretty clear what the better option is. The players may have the final say but the team can make the choice difficult for them.

Again, im not saying this is for sure what will happen, im just outlining a specific case in which it may be beneficial for players to want to waive now rather than being traded later. I think it makes perfect sense in these circumstances


It's quite clear that a player like Johnson might do this, and he has more value than some of the players I see involved in trades on here for big returns(Risto getting a 1st+ in different threads, Buf fans dreaming). I do find it funny that he thinks we're being delusional and that he finds it "satisfying to remind Tampa fans of their situation" and they might have to end up icing "half an AHL team". Although since he is a Buffalo fan he would know about delusions, mediocrity, and icing half an AHL team all too well. If I were Johnson and Brisebois told me they wanted to trade me after this season, and could I tell him some other teams I'd be interested in playing for, I'd be much more likely to tell him the 3 or 4 locations I'd really like to go to and see if he can work out a trade; this would be more appealing than playing one more year with likely diminished ice time and then having to face going to one of 21 teams(not all of which are highly preferred locations).
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It's quite clear that a player like Johnson might do this, and he has more value than some of the players I see involved in trades on here for big returns(Risto getting a 1st+ in different threads, Buf fans dreaming). I do find it funny that he thinks we're being delusional and that he finds it "satisfying to remind Tampa fans of their situation" and they might have to end up icing "half an AHL team". Although since he is a Buffalo fan he would know about delusions, mediocrity, and icing half an AHL team all too well. If I were Johnson and Brisebois told me they wanted to trade me after this season, and could I tell him some other teams I'd be interested in playing for, I'd be much more likely to tell him the 3 or 4 locations I'd really like to go to and see if he can work out a trade; this would be more appealing than playing one more year with likely diminished ice time and then having to face going to one of 21 teams(not all of which are highly preferred locations).


Yeah its a win-win for Tampa and the players as long as they can find a team they are happy to waive for. While most people on here are trying to find solutions to TBLs cap crunch the part about him finding it "satisfying" to say how Tampa is screwed makes it seem like he is just looking to bash people who suggest solutions. Seems like he has his mind made up already and isnt interested in considering other possibilities, just wants to be negative about it. Funnily enough I saw him and other BUF fans in another thread talking about potential 2Cs that BUF may want to acquire. Kinda ironic after he was just posting here about how no teams will be willing to take on guys like Johnson/Palat/Killorn

I chose Johnson to MIN because iirc he had history with the team and he was very close to signing with MIN as a free agent but ended up getting injured last minute which delayed the signing. He then ended up going back for another year of juniors and signed with Tampa the following season because he thought he had a better chance at making the team. If he still sees MIN as a desirable place to live/play then I could see him waiving to go there instead of risking to go somewhere he wouldnt like as much. Could be any team/city he likes though, I was just making an educated guess that MIN may be near the top of his list
 
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