Updated Draft After Additional Research

Idk why people have become so down on Raymond. He didnt do anything to fall and the only person who has done much to surpass him is Rossi, or if you really want a Dman Drysdale I guess. I think he still goes top 5

About the Habs, not trying to be a dick just talking
Bpa is a flawed baby way of drafting mainly created by fans and some analysts. If you listen to head scouts they say they take best fits not best players. For the Habs I’d say the best fit is Quinn. He’s a legit scorer in my and many peoples eyes. We need a high end offensive threat and preferably one that can score like Quinn or holtz. If that’s the case why in the world would we take a shut down defensive minded c(which isn’t really a position of need). If the leafs had pick 5 and they had Raymond as the best player available, would they take him(over drysdale). Probably not, that’s because it would make zero sense for a stacked offensive team who isn’t nearly as strong on the back end to take a forward over the “best” d in the draft

He fell out of the top 10 because it seems that Ottawa will draft Drysdale with the 5th ovr pick, and Perfetti now seems to be the most popular option at 4 for Detroit. Though, he definetly has the talent to go top5.

Also, Lundell isn't hte BPa when Sanderson, Quinn and Askarov are available after him.

He hasn’t really elevated his game much. Part is due to the fact that he’s in a men’s league, but perfetti took a huge step, along with Rossi. Holtz had better numbers in the u20(which isn’t that important). Also I think enough people have looked at his style, which is a small playmaker who thrives on open ice which is less available in the nhl; and realized that he might struggle in na and especially the playoffs. You can also look at his junior elite numbers from last year and realize that in the league he dominated, holtz and gunler were much better

I don't really consider Raymond to be better than Drysdale though. I would probably take Rossi over Drysdale though even though Toronto's centre stacked. Stuff happens in the 2-3 years it takes for the draftees to develop.

If I was Montreal would I take Quinn over Askarov even though Askarov is better? Yes. They already have Price and Primeau and are set in net for the next 5-6 years.

Now would I take Quinn over Lundell? No.

If Montreal trades Domi and gets a scoring winger in return or if they sign Hoffman then they would no longer have a need to draft Quinn. Basically I can see Montreal's needs changing in the next 3 years or so and because of that I wouldn't reach.

Let's say Montreal didn't draft Caufield last year; then I would say it's worth it to go for Quinn because even If they traded for scoring winger they would still need another one.

Sure you could argue Askarov is better but he really doesn't fit what the Canadians need.



Nobody is down on Raymond. Getting drafted 6th overall is a massive achievement. Yes, he didn't do anything to fall but he also didn't do anything to impress like Rossi.

After the top 3 there isn't that much separating the next 3 or 4 guys.

I see Askarov falling a little because a lot of teams either don’t need him or would rather take a guy like Lundell or Sanderson.
It’s not that scouts don’t like Raymond. It’s that he hasn’t done anything to improve his stock like Rossi has. Totally agree.

Rumours have it many scouts don’t like him. Now that’s rumours which Aren’t always correct but I’d say it seems right

My point was if u did consider Raymond as being better than drysdale and Detroit took Rossi 4, would you take Raymond as Kyle Dubas. For the Habs, centre isn’t much of a problem in terms of prospects. Sure we could sign Hoffman but he’s getting older and there is a high chance we don’t sign him. I might have mentioned this to you but the Habs back in 13-14 we had pacioretty score 39 and yet we finished 21 in goals for, so I am accustom to this team not scoring. I don’t think Quinn is off the board personally and if you look at Bob mackenzies list, Quinn was 10. That being said lundell doesn’t fit the Habs as well as Quinn in my opinion as we need a high level forward. And as for domi he would only be moved for a d.

Sure if you think they are similar level players go for Quinn. Just in my opinion I think Lundell is a slightly better prospect.

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Your tiwrs are off, Raymond is better than Rossi and Holtz is in the same tier as Rossi and Perfetti. Only reason Rossi goes at 4 is positional need of a center

I had him above Holtz...

I disagree. Rossi is the 4th best player in this draft.

Rossi, Perfetti and Byfield were all in the OHL and Rossi was the one that won OHL player of the year.

Rossi not only put up more points than Perfetti he also has a much stronger defensive game.

Sure Raymond played in a mens league this season but so did Puljujarvi. He actually put up less points than Puljujarvi even though he was playing a sheltered role.

If you wanna argue Drysdale only gets picked because of positional need... sure. But he's by far the best D man in the draft. Plus he has better numbers than the guy projected to go number 2 in next year's draft.

Rossi is definitely better than Perfetti, that isnt a question. But better than Raymond is very arguable. Raymond has a great 2-way game. And is an exceptional playmaker. I would not be surprised if his career mirrors Marner. I could see Rossi panning out a lot like Barzal though.

Okay because you said you'd put Rossi, Perfetti and Raymond in the same tier.