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If the Sabres truly wanted to go for it

Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 2 juill. 2020
Publié: 2 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Open to genuine suggestions on Hertl trade if people don't think it's fair. Tried to take into account the term left on deal (not a lot), coupled with the second major knee injury in last few years. Still, I knew his worth so I traded a top 10 first rounder, a center prospect and a quality mid-tier stay at home D man to balence out the Sharks skilled D
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 750 000 $
1850 000 $
2950 000 $
44 250 000 $
44 500 000 $
56 500 000 $
1950 000 $
31 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
34 500 000 $
56 000 000 $
32 000 000 $
55 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (LAK)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Johansson, Marcus (1 000 000 $ retained)
2.
BUF
  1. McLeod, Michael
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
3.
SJS
  1. McCabe, Jake
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
4.
BUF
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Hutton, Carter (1 000 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2020
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2021
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Logo de NJD
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 000 000 $83 387 500 $1 487 500 $4 337 500 $-1 387 500 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 3
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
950 000 $950 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
889 166 $889 166 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
850 000 $850 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2

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2 juill. 2020 à 9 h 57
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NJ laughs no one's giving up a 1st for Ristolainen
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2 juill. 2020 à 9 h 57
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Also holy overpay on Tanev he should get 4,75 mil max for 4 years max
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2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 0
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
NJ laughs no one's giving up a 1st for Ristolainen


We'll see about that... NJ has 3 first rounders and is in dire need of a player like Risto in their D core. I took the lowest of the 1sts. Don't think it''s that bad of an offer....
2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 1
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Also holy overpay on Tanev he should get 4,75 mil max for 4 years max


Just went off what he was making before...
2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 1
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Mittelstadt and a first is good enough for Hertl unless he's signing an extension. I'd rather give Borgan a shot than give Tanev that contract
2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 2
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Huge overpay for Hertl.
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2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 2
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Quoting: Sabresfuturecupwinners
We'll see about that... NJ has 3 first rounders and is in dire need of a player like Risto in their D core. I took the lowest of the 1sts. Don't think it''s that bad of an offer....


Except they already have a d-man who's a liability in his own zone in Will Butcher, they literally have 0 need for Risto
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2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 2
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hard pass from NJ
2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 3
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Quoting: Elevatorboy
Huge overpay for Hertl.


Quoting: Elevatorboy
Huge overpay for Hertl.


It's tough to tell... I think something's fair then the trolls come out with lunacy accusations... Plus it was an excuse to get rid of McCabe who I'm not fan of but would do well out west.
2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 3
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Quoting: zyyyp
hard pass from NJ


We'll see about that
2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 3
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Except they already have a d-man who's a liability in his own zone in Will Butcher, they literally have 0 need for Risto


Butcher, Mueller and Subban lol
2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 4
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Butcher, Mueller and Subban lol


Oh right I forgot the useless pylon that is PK

Also Mueller looked fine when paired with PK...
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2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 4
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
NJ laughs no one's giving up a 1st for Ristolainen

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Except they already have a d-man who's a liability in his own zone in Will Butcher, they literally have 0 need for Risto


Good, Sabres keep him. Risto is a lot better than this site gives him credit for. Im not saying he's the best, but the level of opinion on here has spiraled out of control, another case of the illusory truth effect in regards to another Sabre
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2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 5
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Oh right I forgot the useless pylon that is PK

Also Mueller looked fine when paired with PK...


yeah he wasn't as bad as PK or Butch but I wouldn't call him good defensively, like you said we have enough liability's back there lol
2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 7
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Quoting: Sabresfuturecupwinners
It's tough to tell... I think something's fair then the trolls come out with lunacy accusations... Plus it was an excuse to get rid of McCabe who I'm not fan of but would do well out west.


We dont need excuse to get rid McCabe. I dont understand how you could not be a fan of him, other than you look at his points and base your decision on that. You arent a contender without Dmen like McCabe
2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 10
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Quoting: Shibbal18
We dont need excuse to get rid McCabe. I dont understand how you could not be a fan of him, other than you look at his points and base your decision on that. You arent a contender without Dmen like McCabe


It's not his points... I just think we need to cleans ourselves of a lot of the players that weren't working here... Bring in fresh faces... He also had some aggravating penalties and stupid hockey sense moments last year.
2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 11
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We dont need excuse to get rid McCabe. I dont understand how you could not be a fan of him, other than you look at his points and base your decision on that. You arent a contender without Dmen like McCabe


The roster I presented is 10X better than what they iced last year
2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 32
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I think an underrated part what people don't realize is that defense. you have one dman who is defensively responsible and then the next 5 are puck moving dmen who were pretty sloppy defensively. Buffalo needs more lockdown, defensive first defenseman. having 5 puck moving dmen who struggle defensively isn't going to work. look how disastrous they were this past season defensively. Maybe sign a couple guys who are defensive first and have good experience. that would definitely be a start
2 juill. 2020 à 11 h 2
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Quoting: Sabresfuturecupwinners
The roster I presented is 10X better than what they iced last year


Possibly. RW is very weak. Fast is a career 3rd liner, Grandlund is not known for his production (aside from 2 outlier years of which he has completely regressed), and Thompson is a complete role of the dice. Ruotsalainen is not a 4th liner and will be lost in that role. Tanev again, may as well bring in Borgen or just keep Montour on his natural side and keep McCabe, even if you want to chance Bryson on the 2nd pair, as he is not a shut down defender, and keep McCabe in that role (McCabe and Borgen would be fantastic). The Sabres D this year was stealthily top 12 in the league, some metrics top 5. Goaltenders are vastly improved which already makes the team better, which is really all they needed this year to be in the 24 team format. Though the cap doesnt look good. Sabres are getting hit with a penalty because of bonuses, which you're putting them right back in that danger zone and havent factored in the penalty yet. Plus Reinhart probably gets more, whether or not we think he deserves it.
2 juill. 2020 à 11 h 18
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This is a Hertl trade that I would actually be happy about
2 juill. 2020 à 11 h 40
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Mittelstadt and a first is good enough for Hertl unless he's signing an extension. I'd rather give Borgan a shot than give Tanev that contract


Quoting: Elevatorboy
Huge overpay for Hertl.


Quoting: JumboJoe
This is a Hertl trade that I would actually be happy about


This is what it would take to pry Hertl from the sharks.
Is he worth that haul or not is irrelevant sharks want to build around him just like you guys wana build around eichel. To get something the other team doesn’t want to give up you have to overpay it’s that simple.
2 juill. 2020 à 11 h 45
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
NJ laughs no one's giving up a 1st for Ristolainen


Thank you kind shrew
2 juill. 2020 à 11 h 55
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
This is what it would take to pry Hertl from the sharks.
Is he worth that haul or not is irrelevant sharks want to build around him just like you guys wana build around eichel. To get something the other team doesn’t want to give up you have to overpay it’s that simple.


Hertl is 27 and SJ has no assets, theyre kinda just hoping the team they have improves. You can try to build around him, he probably walks though
2 juill. 2020 à 12 h 7
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Mittelstadt and a first is good enough for Hertl unless he's signing an extension. I'd rather give Borgan a shot than give Tanev that contract


No, it isnt.
2 juill. 2020 à 12 h 11
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Hertl is 27 and SJ has no assets, theyre kinda just hoping the team they have improves. You can try to build around him, he probably walks though


Lol no he doesn’t walk he loves playing there he loves the sharks and him and his wife are just starting their family here!
 
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