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Créé par: ZiggyPalffy
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 2 juill. 2020
Publié: 2 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
55 500 000 $
44 750 000 $
42 000 000 $
2750 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
22 000 000 $
1800 000 $
1700 000 $
Transactions
1.
TBL
ANA
  1. Gourde, Yanni
Détails additionnels:
CBO
2.
TBL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (COL)
3.
TBL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
4.
TBL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
5.
CAR
  1. Lipanov, Alexey
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
6.
TBL
  1. Tatar, Tomas (2 300 000 $ retained)
MTL
  1. Joseph, Mathieu
  2. Volkov, Alexander
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TBL)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de TBL
Logo de TBL
Logo de PHI
Logo de COL
Logo de TBL
Logo de DET
Logo de TBL
Logo de OTT
Logo de TBL
2021
Logo de TBL
Logo de PIT
Logo de TBL
Logo de TBL
Logo de TBL
Logo de TBL
Logo de TBL
Logo de NSH
Logo de NJD
2022
Logo de TBL
Logo de TBL
Logo de PIT
Logo de TBL
Logo de TBL
Logo de TBL
Logo de TBL
Logo de TBL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 125 000 $0 $500 000 $1 375 000 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, C
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
G
UFA - 8
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
700 000 $700 000 $
AD, DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
RFA - 1

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2 juill. 2020 à 4 h 40
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In your dreams if you think teams accept those trades
Trickster et Kotkaniemi15 a aimé ceci.
2 juill. 2020 à 7 h 17
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CBO doesn't look likely at all.

Johnson won't waive to go from a contender to Florida.

McDonaugh won't waive to go from a contender in a sunny city to go to Montreal.

Palat won't fetch 2 2nd's given that the trade market for him will be extremely limited due to his NTC.

Carolina won't trade Trochek for futures so soon after paying a hefty price for him.

With that much retention Tatar would fetch at least one more prime asset along with a 1st.
Trickster a aimé ceci.
2 juill. 2020 à 8 h 11
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Keep your NMC players!!!
Trickster a aimé ceci.
2 juill. 2020 à 9 h 11
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No CBO, Johnson isn't leaving Tampa for Florida. McDonagh isn't leaving Tampa for Montreal and like the other poster said Palat isn't returning 2 2nds he has his choice of what team he wants to go to. Fat chance that said team gives up high picks for him.
2 juill. 2020 à 9 h 59
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that's a huge no from the penguins. They can find better use of 5+ million.
Keep your over priced winger. who hasn't scored 20 goals in forever.
2 juill. 2020 à 10 h 50
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Habs counter offer: Poelhng and Mete & 2nd for Sergachev & Killorn & 1st
2 juill. 2020 à 11 h 40
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Quoting: Richard88
CBO doesn't look likely at all.

Johnson won't waive to go from a contender to Florida.

McDonaugh won't waive to go from a contender in a sunny city to go to Montreal.

Palat won't fetch 2 2nd's given that the trade market for him will be extremely limited due to his NTC.

Carolina won't trade Trochek for futures so soon after paying a hefty price for him.

With that much retention Tatar would fetch at least one more prime asset along with a 1st.


You're nitpicking...
2 juill. 2020 à 11 h 41
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No CBO, Johnson isn't leaving Tampa for Florida. McDonagh isn't leaving Tampa for Montreal and like the other poster said Palat isn't returning 2 2nds he has his choice of what team he wants to go to. Fat chance that said team gives up high picks for him.


You just said the same thing the other guy said. Do you actually have any knowledge of your own or do you just listen to dumb people naturally?
2 juill. 2020 à 11 h 54
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The only problem is that all the players you're trading have NTC, which they have to lift...
2 juill. 2020 à 12 h 3
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The only problem is that all the players you're trading have NTC, which they have to lift...


No ****. All of which are playoff teams.
2 juill. 2020 à 12 h 8
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You're nitpicking...


No I'm not. Saying that none of the trades are feasible isn't nitpicking, it's being blunt. If I were nitpicking it would be because i was for example being pedantic about the exact value of the picks in a trade, but that's far from what I'm doing here in writing off all these trades.
2 juill. 2020 à 12 h 12
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No I'm not. Saying that none of the trades are feasible isn't nitpicking, it's being blunt. If I were nitpicking it would be because i was for example being pedantic about the exact value of the picks in a trade, but that's far from what I'm doing here in writing off all these trades.

Florida, Montreal, and Penguins are all playoff teams as it stands, chances of waiving to go to another playoff team isnt low...

Tatar trade is fine, I overpaid a significant amount for retention.

Your only solid points was the CBO and the Trochek trade.
2 juill. 2020 à 12 h 48
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Florida, Montreal, and Penguins are all playoff teams as it stands, chances of waiving to go to another playoff team isnt low...

Tatar trade is fine, I overpaid a significant amount for retention.

Your only solid points was the CBO and the Trochek trade.


Of those 3 teams only Pittsburgh would have likely made the playoffs had we not had this messed up new format. Also, the play-in round doesn't technically count as playoffs.

As for the other points I made:

Quote:

Johnson won't waive to go from a contender to Florida.

McDonaugh won't waive to go from a contender in a sunny city to go to Montreal.

Palat won't fetch 2 2nd's given that the trade market for him will be extremely limited due to his NTC.

With that much retention Tatar would fetch at least one more prime asset along with a 1st.

Why would Johnson want to waive to leave a contending team, to go to a middling team that hasn't won a playoff round since 1996?

I also reiterate that it's hugely unlikely that McDonaugh isn't waiving so that he can move his American family to a freezing cold location in Canada. Why would he do that if he doesn't have to?

I've asked Tampa fans on their hfboard Palat page what return they expect if Palat gets moved, and most agree that a 2nd, or 2nd + minor add/prospect would be enough. Even if there's like 3 teams interested that's still not going to be enough to justify paying 2 2nd's for a player who has full control over where he goes.

I don't think Joseph or Volkov are that interesting to Montreal. That sort of package might be solid if there's no retention, but again, with $2m+ retention for a season Montreal will need to add an asset to make that $2m+ worth it for Tampa.
2 juill. 2020 à 12 h 50
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Just give Anaheim gourde lol
2 juill. 2020 à 18 h 59
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lmao you just made the same trades from the one before, again no one waives their NTC for those teams
 
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