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Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 29 juin 2020
Publié: 1 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
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EDM
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (ANA)
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OTT
  1. Benning, Matthew [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Becomes a second if benning averages 20+ minutes
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  1. Zacha, Pavel
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  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (ARI)
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Jack Quinn

Yaroslav Askarov
NJD
  1. Neal, James
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Alexis Lafreniere
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EDM
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Oilers select

JeanLuc Foudy
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EDM
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
Jake Neighbours
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1 juill. 2020 à 15 h 55
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Think Buf would pass on that. Bear is prolly better then Risto, but not for a high second
1 juill. 2020 à 15 h 57
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Think Buf would pass on that. Bear is prolly better then Risto, but not for a high second


I can respect that.
1 juill. 2020 à 15 h 59
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As an outsider:
you vastly underpay on pretty much all of these trades

Not sure how much Laf is worth to the devils, so for the sake of being kind, ill call that one even.

But:
Bear isnt worth as much a risto alone, so you certainly arent getting a 2nd rounder also (maybe oilers throw in a 2nd of their own)
Nurse isnt worth Drouin alone (again maybe Nurse and a 2nd for Drouin works)
Benning isnt worth more than a 5th (lol a 3rd hahaha)

Again, i hate when people are mean, so im tryna be nice here, not calling you a moron or anything lol
But yeah thats just the reality
1 juill. 2020 à 16 h 16
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
As an outsider:
you vastly underpay on pretty much all of these trades

Not sure how much Laf is worth to the devils, so for the sake of being kind, ill call that one even.

But:
Bear isnt worth as much a risto alone, so you certainly arent getting a 2nd rounder also (maybe oilers throw in a 2nd of their own)
Nurse isnt worth Drouin alone (again maybe Nurse and a 2nd for Drouin works)
Benning isnt worth more than a 5th (lol a 3rd hahaha)

Again, i hate when people are mean, so im tryna be nice here, not calling you a moron or anything lol
But yeah thats just the reality


Respectfully disagree Drouin being worth more than nurse. Drouin has only one 20 goal season back with Tampa... Nurse would instantly be top pairing in Montreal.
Bear for risto I most certainly believe bear holds a lot more value an early second seems very fair.
Benning you just need to take some time and Look at his stats they are very impressive. Never been a minus player.
1 juill. 2020 à 16 h 17
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
As an outsider:
you vastly underpay on pretty much all of these trades

Not sure how much Laf is worth to the devils, so for the sake of being kind, ill call that one even.

But:
Bear isnt worth as much a risto alone, so you certainly arent getting a 2nd rounder also (maybe oilers throw in a 2nd of their own)
Nurse isnt worth Drouin alone (again maybe Nurse and a 2nd for Drouin works)
Benning isnt worth more than a 5th (lol a 3rd hahaha)

Again, i hate when people are mean, so im tryna be nice here, not calling you a moron or anything lol
But yeah thats just the reality


I disagree with almost everything you said. Lafreniere is worth way more then the Devils trade. Why would they trade the top player for that underwhelming of a package?

Risto is one of the worst defensive dmen in the league. I wouldn’t even do Bear straight up.

Nurse isn’t worth a streaky, headache of a player in Drouin? Your right he’s worth a whole lot more.
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1 juill. 2020 à 16 h 27
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Quoting: Smokingun71
I disagree with almost everything you said. Lafreniere is worth way more then the Devils trade. Why would they trade the top player for that underwhelming of a package?

Risto is one of the worst defensive dmen in the league. I wouldn’t even do Bear straight up.

Nurse isn’t worth a streaky, headache of a player in Drouin? Your right he’s worth a whole lot more.


I’m guessing your an oilers fan. I am too.
Trust me I want laf but don’t want the headache of bonuses complicating resigning several core players next offseason.
Bear vs risto I agree with you. Normal circumstances zero chance consider it but our future top four in my eyes right now klef Larsson Jones and bouch. Expansion draft 7f 3D will protect all of them only exposing risto no big deal there. 7 forwards is the entire top six plus I’d lean towards benson. If they take one of Kassain or AA no big deal have prospects on ELC coming in to replace.
1 juill. 2020 à 16 h 31
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Most of this is with expansion draft in mind.
7 forwards 3 d.
Mcdavid
Leon
Nuge
Drouin
JP
Yam
Benson/ Zacha which ever at the time
Klef
Larsson
Jones
Kosk
Exposing AA kassian risto at which time should have a replacement already in system unless take risto which will only need to replace a bottom pairing d or russell play off side which is most likely the case.
1 juill. 2020 à 16 h 35
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I think I accepted lesser value in nearly all those trades. Fairly close but in my eyes favours other teams more that being said I’d be very happy if able to add those prospects to system and come out with a group of forwards that can skate like each of those lines
1 juill. 2020 à 16 h 46
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Quoting: Timmah007
I’m guessing your an oilers fan. I am too.
Trust me I want laf but don’t want the headache of bonuses complicating resigning several core players next offseason.
Bear vs risto I agree with you. Normal circumstances zero chance consider it but our future top four in my eyes right now klef Larsson Jones and bouch. Expansion draft 7f 3D will protect all of them only exposing risto no big deal there. 7 forwards is the entire top six plus I’d lean towards benson. If they take one of Kassain or AA no big deal have prospects on ELC coming in to replace.


I am a huge oilers fan, have been since they came into the league!

I don’t disagree with trading Lafreniere but that is not a good reason to do it. And if we do, you do not do it for a guy in Quinn who may slide out of the top 10 and a Russian goalie that may or may not turn out or play in the NHL.

I disagree with your top 4 future D men, I don’t think that Larsson is in that mix.
1 juill. 2020 à 16 h 49
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What’s the logic behind trading Bear out of curiosity?
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1 juill. 2020 à 16 h 50
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Quoting: Timmah007
Most of this is with expansion draft in mind.
7 forwards 3 d.
Mcdavid
Leon
Nuge
Drouin
JP
Yam
Benson/ Zacha which ever at the time
Klef
Larsson
Jones
Kosk
Exposing AA kassian risto at which time should have a replacement already in system unless take risto which will only need to replace a bottom pairing d or russell play off side which is most likely the case.


Larsson and Nuge are UFA before the draft no need to sign them before and protect them. I also don’t think Benson needs to be protected

I See it more like this

McDavid
Draisaitl
Yamamoto
AA

Nurse
Klefbom
Bear
Jones

Koskinen
1 juill. 2020 à 16 h 55
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Quoting: Timmah007
Respectfully disagree Drouin being worth more than nurse. Drouin has only one 20 goal season back with Tampa... Nurse would instantly be top pairing in Montreal.
Bear for risto I most certainly believe bear holds a lot more value an early second seems very fair.
Benning you just need to take some time and Look at his stats they are very impressive. Never been a minus player.


Quoting: Smokingun71
I am a huge oilers fan, have been since they came into the league!

I don’t disagree with trading Lafreniere but that is not a good reason to do it. And if we do, you do not do it for a guy in Quinn who may slide out of the top 10 and a Russian goalie that may or may not turn out or play in the NHL.

I disagree with your top 4 future D men, I don’t think that Larsson is in that mix.


I mean thats all fine, so i think 1 for 1 s will be your best option because the other teams certainly arent accepting those deals.

Again, if you guys disagreem, I respect that. So the logical answer to all of this is, 1 for 1

(and the benning deal just needs to be fixed. Like John Moore, he isnt a cap dump, but he certainly isnt worth nearly that much)
1 juill. 2020 à 17 h 5
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are you OUT OF YOUR DAMN MIND> BEAR FOR RISTO AND A 2ND. You might as well start injecting bath salts into yourself
no way AA deserves more than penny over 3 mil
you telling me, you would trade a good top 4 dman and wanst to STAY in edmonton for a player who is nothing of a headache and a 2nd round pick that will take a minimum of two years to develop. You have got to be kidding me
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Quoting: Smokingun71
Larsson and Nuge are UFA before the draft no need to sign them before and protect them. I also don’t think Benson needs to be protected

I See it more like this

McDavid
Draisaitl
Yamamoto
AA

Nurse
Klefbom
Bear
Jones

Koskinen


Protecting 3 LD and 1RD?
1 juill. 2020 à 17 h 6
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
As an outsider:
you vastly underpay on pretty much all of these trades

Not sure how much Laf is worth to the devils, so for the sake of being kind, ill call that one even.

But:
Bear isnt worth as much a risto alone, so you certainly arent getting a 2nd rounder also (maybe oilers throw in a 2nd of their own)
Nurse isnt worth Drouin alone (again maybe Nurse and a 2nd for Drouin works)
Benning isnt worth more than a 5th (lol a 3rd hahaha)

Again, i hate when people are mean, so im tryna be nice here, not calling you a moron or anything lol
But yeah thats just the reality


drouin is overrated.
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1 juill. 2020 à 17 h 8
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Quoting: Timmah007
Most of this is with expansion draft in mind.
7 forwards 3 d.
Mcdavid
Leon
Nuge
Drouin
JP
Yam
Benson/ Zacha which ever at the time
Klef
Larsson
Jones
Kosk
Exposing AA kassian risto at which time should have a replacement already in system unless take risto which will only need to replace a bottom pairing d or russell play off side which is most likely the case.


larsson is gonna leave given that edmonton has no cap to sign him. He will look for a deal the gives im around 5-6 mil per year so it's better to protect bear over him
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1 juill. 2020 à 17 h 11
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larsson is gonna leave given that edmonton has no cap to sign him. He will look for a deal the gives im around 5-6 mil per year so it's better to protect bear over him


I doubt Larsson will command over 5 I think it will be a modest increase to 4.5-5.
1 juill. 2020 à 17 h 13
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So you would trade the 1st pick (laf) who would be the perfect winger for mcdavid and have probably the best top 6 in the league and also trade bear probably edms best dman for a player who can’t play d at all..?
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Quoting: Timmah007
I doubt Larsson will command over 5 I think it will be a modest increase to 4.5-5.


some dumb team in need of a dman will pay for him. just look at stralman
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Quoting: kafle22
some dumb team in need of a dman will pay for him. just look at stralman


Hard to see a team offering a big payday in a flat cap world for a defensive d.
1 juill. 2020 à 17 h 29
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Quoting: Timmah007
Protecting 3 LD and 1RD?


We will only have 1 RHD that will need protecting
1 juill. 2020 à 17 h 31
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Quoting: kafle22
drouin is overrated.


Agreed, but hes still = if not better than nurse
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Quoting: Smokingun71
We will only have 1 RHD that will need protecting


That’s where we see things slightly different I like larsson and want him long term he’s the only one that’s really physical. I love bear but lean towards Larsson more. It just comes down to those two which to keep I respect and understand your stance towards bear being the keeper.
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Agreed, but hes still = if not better than nurse


I’m not sure how he’s equal or better than nurse....
1 juill. 2020 à 17 h 50
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Quoting: Timmah007
That’s where we see things slightly different I like larsson and want him long term he’s the only one that’s really physical. I love bear but lean towards Larsson more. It just comes down to those two which to keep I respect and understand your stance towards bear being the keeper.


If you want to resign Larsson then that’s great but why not wait till after the expansion draft to do it so you don’t have to protect him? I would suggest having a hand shake deal in place with both him. and Nuge to sign right after the draft.
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