Don't really know emond that well but I don't think the pens would be interested at all in vlasic, terrible contract especially if they're trading murray in that deal.

This is a pretty decently fair trade for Strome.

strome would fit in good

Pens get robbed blind

Yup could you imagine if we ended up with 3 first rounder in this year's draft?

Add in you're own 2020 first and the pens might consider... oh wait...

I don't know why so many fans on here are convinced Strome is getting traded but I'm all for it if he goes to the Sharks. Doug Wilson probably wants to trade the TB 1st for a new forward, and Strome is young, can skate, score and be a playmaker. He checks all the boxes and won't be as expensive as most other options.

With the Murray deal, I threw Edmond on there but that could be any goalie prospect (Shortridge, Korener, etc.). I'm figuring that fair for Pitt to take on the Vlasic contract and get a better player than Johnson who is on a shorter and cheaper but still bad deal.

The Penguins can't realistically keep Jarry and Murray, this way they get a goalie prospect and picks. They also get to upgrade from Johnson to Vlasic, which will cost them money, but again, more picks. Maybe the Sharks throw another prospect in or something.

I'd say we probably should have at least 3 1st rounders in this years draft.

I think the east coasters also don't really know that much about Vlasic. For a decade he was this underrated shutdown defenseman who no one knew because he played on the west coast and never put up points or made highlights. He was incredibly consistent and reliable. In the last two years, he hasn't been that, but he's not a bad defenseman. His contract is bad, but he's still a useful stay at home blueliner. From every single thing I've read about Jack Johnson, it sounds like he really sucks. Vlasic would be a definite upgrade and the Pens would get picks back in exchange for taking on the extra salary and years.

Y'all really should end up with three, because if you're trading Strome and Georgiev, those are both at least 2nds right? Maybe 1sts, particularly in this case.

Be wary though, Boston had three, back-to-back 1sts in 2015 (13-15) and got Debrusk but took two nobodies -- the next three picks were Barzal, Conner and Chabot.

I hope you're not advocating for telling some of our players to f*** off just so we can get more picks are you?

Vlasic has a full NMC and by most reports, the only team he would even consider waiving it for would be Montreal (even that is unlikely). Even if he were to waive it, the Pens don't take that deal.

Rangers had 3 1sts 2 years ago....we did pretty good i'd say.

Vlasic is consistantly at the top of worst contract lists. Retain 50% and the Pens dont hang up. Otherwise it is a hard no.

I'm advocating for trading Strome and Trouba.... I think both of them get late 1sts (Trouba a bit more)

I'd like to offer an edited version of your Strome proposal.

SJ gets:
Strome, Howden, BUF '21 3rd and OTT '21 4th

NYR gets:
True, Gambrell, SJ '20 2nd

What the "fellow" NYR fans he won't tell you is that your proposal is an overpayment. Howden fits the current system much better than True; the depth of this draft affords both teams the means to move the deck chairs around. Strome can balance the lineup for the Sharks, while the two young centers fulfill the Rangers' alignment.

The Rangers focus in the draft will be on wing depth and right-handed shooting defense. Thus, NHL-ready centers for their bottom six, is the best return in a trade, if Strome isn't being dealt for a more significant return.

After giving it a lot of thought and seeing tons of Strome trades, I'm just gonna say I really don't want him. He's decent and had a bounce back year, but he's overhyped because most of his points came from guys like Panarin and Zibanejad, and he's inevitably going to get overpaid and end up a 30-40 point guy which (in my opinion) isn't worth giving up that first for. I just don't love him as a player, and personally wouldn't trade for him if asked to give up that much.

But if he plays with Couture/Meier or Hertl/Kane maybe he can still provide high-level production. I just worry the Sharks won't be able to add a significant contributor who is right-handed, not old, and a good skater who won't cost more than $6 mil.

Who are some guys who you think the Sharks could get in the same price (salary and trade) range? Maybe Palmieri?

I don't know much about Howden, but I (not that my opinion matters to NHL GMs) am set on bringing in someone who can provide immediate offensive improvement at RW.

I understand you totally. Sometimes it's difficult to figure out how to assess the prospects of a proposal, based on some of the quackery that arises here from time to time.

You are on to something wise. First round picks should be reserved for the NHL's big fish in trade proposals.