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Chi wins draft and trades Laffy to Ott

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Publié: 29 juin 2020 à 10 h 53
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 41/186 (22%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

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La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 15 325 000 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 1 336 667 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Nylander, AlexanderExempté du ballottageBlackhawks de ChicagoLNH-863 333 $111---65101626--
Entwistle, MackenzieExempté du ballottageBlackhawks de ChicagoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Highmore, MatthewExempté du ballottageBlackhawks de ChicagoLNH-775 833 $111---36246--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Blackhawks de ChicagoCHI)---100------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Islanders de New YorkNYI)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Sharks de San JoseSJS)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---100------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial13 988 333 $2445653612
Variation1 639 166 $-2-3-3400
Final15 627 499 $ (↑)22 (↓)42 (↓)62 (↓)7 (↑)612-12-200

Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaSénateurs d'Ottawa

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Islanders de New YorkNYI)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Sharks de San JoseSJS)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---100------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Nylander, AlexanderExempté du ballottageBlackhawks de ChicagoLNH-190 304 $111---65101626--
Entwistle, MackenzieExempté du ballottageBlackhawks de ChicagoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Highmore, MatthewExempté du ballottageBlackhawks de ChicagoLNH-171 016 $111---36246--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Blackhawks de ChicagoCHI)---100------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial11 686 708 $21456451212
Variation-361 320 $233-400
Final11 325 388 $ (↓)23 (↑)48 (↑)67 (↑)1 (↓)1212122032
What would Ottawa give for Laffy, Nylander, Highmore, Entwistle?
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29 juin 2020 à 11 h 12
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That’s a hefty price tag

At that price they need to pass on Lafreniere
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29 juin 2020 à 11 h 40
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No way they do that trade
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29 juin 2020 à 12 h 1
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There's zero chance they do this trade. Do you think Laffy alone is going to turn this team into a cup contender?!?! You're giving lottery picks for the next two seasons too!
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29 juin 2020 à 12 h 5
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No way they do that trade


I will remove 2021 1st rd pic. What would be worth the offer or would Ottawa completely pass?

Maybe 5OA, 18OA, Brannstrom?
29 juin 2020 à 12 h 9
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There's zero chance they do this trade. Do you think Laffy alone is going to turn this team into a cup contender?!?! You're giving lottery picks for the next two seasons too!


Just baiting to see who would offer the biggest reward for Laffy! If Chi got him, who would offer the most? Laffy and Nylander on each wing with someone could be a dangerous line next year potentially. The draft pics traded for them will not develop for a couple years at least if ever!
29 juin 2020 à 12 h 11
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Quoting: BDIBIT
That’s a hefty price tag

At that price they need to pass on Lafreniere


What price tag would you pay?
29 juin 2020 à 12 h 46
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Just baiting to see who would offer the biggest reward for Laffy! If Chi got him, who would offer the most? Laffy and Nylander on each wing with someone could be a dangerous line next year potentially. The draft pics traded for them will not develop for a couple years at least if ever!


fair enough. I do think OTT would give the most, but IF the Hawks actually won the lottery. They keep AL for sure. They did go #3 then #1 in back to back year before....Toews/Kane...who knows.
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29 juin 2020 à 13 h 38
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Why even post this?
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This is why I hate the human race.
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29 juin 2020 à 18 h 29
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Yikes on bikes. This trade proposal is brought to you by copious drug abuse.
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29 juin 2020 à 18 h 54
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Lmao I wouldn't do this if it was a two for one special and Ottawa was getting two Lafrenieres. The only player in the world worth anything like that deal is McDavid.
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Lmao I wouldn't do this if it was a two for one special and Ottawa was getting two Lafrenieres. The only player in the world worth anything like that deal is McDavid.

Reasons in the last 20 years to trade the 3rd, 5th and 18th overall for the 1OA. i agree with everyone about it being a long shot but these are examples of where someone would make the trade.
2001 ilya kovalchuk - alex svitnov, stanislav chistov, jens karlsson
2004 alex ovechkin - cam barker, blake wheeler, kyle chipchura
2005 sid crosby - jack johnson, carey price, ryan parent
2007 patrick kane - kyle turrris, karl alzner, ian cole
2008 steve stamkos - zach bogosian, luke schenn, chet pickard
2010 Taylor hall - erik gudbranson nino niederreiter austin watson
2013 Nathan mackinnon - jon druin, elias lindholm, mirco mueller
2015 connor mcdavid - dylan strome, noah hanifin, thomas chabot
2016 austin matthews- pierre luc dubois, olli juolevi, logan stanley
29 juin 2020 à 19 h 56
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Quoting: TheGreatMistake
Yikes on bikes. This trade proposal is brought to you by copious drug abuse.


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This is why I hate the human race.

Reasons in the last 20 years to trade the 3rd, 5th and 18th overall for the 1OA. i agree with everyone about it being a long shot but these are examples of where someone would make the trade.
2001 ilya kovalchuk - alex svitnov, stanislav chistov, jens karlsson
2004 alex ovechkin - cam barker, blake wheeler, kyle chipchura
2005 sid crosby - jack johnson, carey price, ryan parent
2007 patrick kane - kyle turrris, karl alzner, ian cole
2008 steve stamkos - zach bogosian, luke schenn, chet pickard
2010 Taylor hall - erik gudbranson nino niederreiter austin watson
2013 Nathan mackinnon - jon druin, elias lindholm, mirco mueller
2015 connor mcdavid - dylan strome, noah hanifin, thomas chabot
2016 austin matthews- pierre luc dubois, olli juolevi, logan stanley
29 juin 2020 à 20 h 17
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Reasons in the last 20 years to trade the 3rd, 5th and 18th overall for the 1OA. i agree with everyone about it being a long shot but these are examples of where someone would make the trade.
2001 ilya kovalchuk - alex svitnov, stanislav chistov, jens karlsson
2004 alex ovechkin - cam barker, blake wheeler, kyle chipchura
2005 sid crosby - jack johnson, carey price, ryan parent
2007 patrick kane - kyle turrris, karl alzner, ian cole
2008 steve stamkos - zach bogosian, luke schenn, chet pickard
2010 Taylor hall - erik gudbranson nino niederreiter austin watson
2013 Nathan mackinnon - jon druin, elias lindholm, mirco mueller
2015 connor mcdavid - dylan strome, noah hanifin, thomas chabot
2016 austin matthews- pierre luc dubois, olli juolevi, logan stanley


You can do that just as well in the reverse.

2017: Hischer -> Heiskanen, Pettersson, Vaakanainen

2014: Ekblad -> Draisaitl, Dal Colle, Tuch

2012: Yakupov -> Galchenyuk, Reilly, Teravainen

2006: Erik Johnson -> Toews, Kessel, Stewart


Also the trade isn't just 3rd + 5th + 18th, which I still think is bad for Ottawa, it's 3rd + 5th + 18th + 2021 1st + 2022 1st. Sens aren't a playoff team next year or probably the year after. That's two more lottery picks. It's an absolute joke of a trade.

Sens are very good at drafting and developing. I can confidently say that I would expect them to be able to take the 3rd, 5th and 18th best players in the draft, and develop them in to players that combine to bring more value over their careers than Lafreniere does on his own.
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29 juin 2020 à 20 h 42
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
You can do that just as well in the reverse.

2017: Hischer -> Heiskanen, Pettersson, Vaakanainen

2014: Ekblad -> Draisaitl, Dal Colle, Tuch

2012: Yakupov -> Galchenyuk, Reilly, Teravainen

2006: Erik Johnson -> Toews, Kessel, Stewart


Also the trade isn't just 3rd + 5th + 18th, which I still think is bad for Ottawa, it's 3rd + 5th + 18th + 2021 1st + 2022 1st. Sens aren't a playoff team next year or probably the year after. That's two more lottery picks. It's an absolute joke of a trade.

Sens are very good at drafting and developing. I can confidently say that I would expect them to be able to take the 3rd, 5th and 18th best players in the draft, and develop them in to players that combine to bring more value over their careers than Lafreniere does on his own.


I agree that it is a far-out offer. That was the purpose to get a reaction of how far someone would go for the 1OA. Realistically however, 10 of the last 20 drafts show most likely that 1 guy can be valued over 5 other 1st rounders. A coin toss really, plus the offer had 3 more bodies returning, Nylander, an 8OA in the first round, Highmore a solid checking line forward, and Entwistle from team Canada and will be in the NHL. Lafreniere is also the undisputed 1OA which happens less than half the time as well. Not saying that Ottawa should or will do this, just showing that it is plausible that the trade could end up being 10 years from now that Ottawa would win that trade. No one would take that chance however.
29 juin 2020 à 21 h 0
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I agree that it is a far-out offer. That was the purpose to get a reaction of how far someone would go for the 1OA. Realistically however, 10 of the last 20 drafts show most likely that 1 guy can be valued over 5 other 1st rounders. A coin toss really, plus the offer had 3 more bodies returning, Nylander, an 8OA in the first round, Highmore a solid checking line forward, and Entwistle from team Canada and will be in the NHL. Lafreniere is also the undisputed 1OA which happens less than half the time as well. Not saying that Ottawa should or will do this, just showing that it is plausible that the trade could end up being 10 years from now that Ottawa would win that trade. No one would take that chance however.


If it cost more than 5th + 18th + 33rd + Logan Brown, plus maybe another 2nd, I don't think it would be worthwhile. Being guaranteed a star 1C like Stutzle or Byfield is too huge to pass up, even for Lafreniere.
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30 juin 2020 à 5 h 10
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Lmao I wouldn't do this if it was a two for one special and Ottawa was getting two Lafrenieres. The only player in the world worth anything like that deal is McDavid.


That's a very good point and even he needs help to get his team to the playoffs.
30 juin 2020 à 8 h 34
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
If it cost more than 5th + 18th + 33rd + Logan Brown, plus maybe another 2nd, I don't think it would be worthwhile. Being guaranteed a star 1C like Stutzle or Byfield is too huge to pass up, even for Lafreniere.


If it cost the 5OA instead of 3OA I would def give up a lot more as we could get a 1C + Laf.
5OA, 18OA, two seconds and a Brown/Abramov/Chlapik/Paul/Tierny
Just another thought with the team getting the first pick most likely going for playoffs next year including some NHL ready players that are cost controlled or under a low cap hit such as Tierny, Paul, Balcers, Duclair, Wolanin might be as valuable to them as adding in another second round pick
 
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