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If LA drafts a center

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Équipe: 2020-21 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 28 juin 2020
Publié: 28 juin 2020
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If LA takes Byfield or Stutzle and intends to play them at center... Would they consider moving one of the center prospects they own?
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MIN
  1. Kupari, Rasmus
  2. Madden, Tyler
  3. Turcotte, Alex
  4. Vilardi, Gabriel
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NOT A TRADE.

Listing the multiple high-end center prospects LA owns
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  1. Addison, Calen
  2. Beckman, Adam
  3. Belpedio, Louis [Droits de RFA]
  4. Boldy, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
  5. Brodin, Jonas
  6. Donato, Ryan
  7. Dumba, Matt
  8. Firstov, Vladislav [Liste de réserve]
  9. Greenway, Jordan [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
NOT A TRADE.

Players/prospects with at least moderate value the Wild would likely be willing to move for a high-end center prospect. Would LA be interested in any?
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 7
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Dumba and Donato for Vilardi, Roy and a pick could work imo.
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 8
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Dumba and Donato for Vilardi, Roy and a pick could work imo.


Honestly I wouldn't hate that trade at all
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 11
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Is Vilardi still good, I remember someone saying his back is of concern
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 14
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Is Vilardi still good, I remember someone saying his back is of concern


Scored 7 points in 10 games after finally recovering from his back injury this season. It's an extremely small sample size, but very promising nonetheless.
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 15
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Madden and Kupari seem like wingers in the NHL
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 23
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Brodin, Donato, and the Wild’s 2020 1st (assuming it’s not the #1) for the #2 pick???
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 24
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But when you're minny a right shot is a right shot 🤷‍♂️
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 25
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Brodin, Donato, and the Wild’s 2020 1st (assuming it’s not the #1) for the #2 pick???


Not sure the Kings would do it but I'd love to take Stutzle or Byfield. I like @csick idea of Dumba and Donato for Vilardi+. I forgot to include Akil Thomas in this list, but I really like the idea of Thomas and Vilardi for Dumba and Donato...
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Brodin, Donato, and the Wild’s 2020 1st (assuming it’s not the #1) for the #2 pick???


I dont think LA does that honestly
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 26
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 27
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The Kings are going to see what they have first, even if they draft Byfield. Don't expect any trades for a year or two. Once the chips fall, yes I expect a player like Akil Thomas or Kupari or JAD to be traded.

Dumba trade doesn't make sense for the Kings. They need to draft or find a 21 and under RD prospect who's going to grow with the new core to eventually take over the 1RD spot from Doughty, not get someone who will play second fiddle to Drew in his prime. By the time Drew vacates the #1 spot, Dumba will already be 29/30. Doesn't make sense for a team that's rebuilding. And the Kings have no need for another 25 point guy who will fit somewhere between the second and third line. We have enough third liners already.
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 28
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Not sure the Kings would do it but I'd love to take Stutzle or Byfield. I like @csick idea of Dumba and Donato for Vilardi+. I forgot to include Akil Thomas in this list, but I really like the idea of Thomas and Vilardi for Dumba and Donato...


Try to get prokhorkin too could be a good fit with Kaprizov and keep he wouldnt go to the KHL
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 28
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Not sure the Kings would do it but I'd love to take Stutzle or Byfield. I like @csick idea of Dumba and Donato for Vilardi+. I forgot to include Akil Thomas in this list, but I really like the idea of Thomas and Vilardi for Dumba and Donato...


I would make that trade too.

The reason I proposed the Brodin trade is because Brodin would be the perfect LHD to pair with Doughty.
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 30
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I dont think LA does that honestly


I agree...even the deal does make some sense. Trading the #2 is not a good PR move.
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 30
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The trouble with this is that LA is rebuilding and Minnesota only has assets that are more win now assets.

Maybe LA says they need to move out a youthful center for a dman but it's likely a dman that's under 24 or at least a close age to the prospect they're giving up
28 juin 2020 à 12 h 33
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The Kings are going to see what they have first, even if they draft Byfield. Don't expect any trades for a year or two. Once the chips fall, yes I expect a player like Akil Thomas or Kupari or JAD to be traded.

Dumba trade doesn't make sense for the Kings. They need to draft or find a 21 and under RD prospect who's going to grow with the new core to eventually take over the 1RD spot from Doughty, not get someone who will play second fiddle to Drew in his prime. By the time Drew vacates the #1 spot, Dumba will already be 29/30. Doesn't make sense for a team that's rebuilding. And the Kings have no need for another 25 point guy who will fit somewhere between the second and third line. We have enough third liners already.


You could argue that by winning the 2nd overall pick they'd be taking a guy that's nearly NHL ready, and a lot of their talented prospects are pretty close to being NHL ready. Owners/GM's are typically impatient and want to win ASAP so I don't think it's that far fetched for the Kings to trade for a young-ish impact blue liner so they can compete with Doughty and Kopitar playing at a high level with their younger core starting to trickle into the NHL.

Donato doesn't necessarily have to be a part of the trade, but it's worth noting he scored 14 goals averaging 10 minutes a game. I felt Boudreau unfairly demoted him the 4th line despite his scoring
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28 juin 2020 à 12 h 34
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The trouble with this is that LA is rebuilding and Minnesota only has assets that are more win now assets.

Maybe LA says they need to move out a youthful center for a dman but it's likely a dman that's under 24 or at least a close age to the prospect they're giving up


I provided multiple good prospects the Wild own that the Kings could trade for, including Addison who looks like someone with top 4 potential.
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28 juin 2020 à 13 h 4
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id have to think LAK would be salivating at Fiala if you wanted one of those centers
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id have to think LAK would be salivating at Fiala if you wanted one of those centers


Fiala (and Kaprizov) would be a non-starter.
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28 juin 2020 à 13 h 42
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You skipped over Menell. Close to NHL ready, AHL All Star, and is generally considered to have Top 4 upside. 23 yrs old Rhs RD, perfect for what the Kings would be looking for.

Also made expendable by Addison's addition to our prospect pool.
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You skipped over Menell. Close to NHL ready, AHL All Star, and is generally considered to have Top 4 upside. 23 yrs old Rhs RD, perfect for what the Kings would be looking for.

Also made expendable by Addison's addition to our prospect pool.


Intentionally didn't include him. I think we should hang onto him, especially if we traded Addison or Belpedio. But yeah he'd be available as well. Most fans from other teams don't know a thing about him.
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28 juin 2020 à 14 h 9
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Paging California hockey expert @OldNYIfan for some insight


You need @tkecanuck341 s too
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28 juin 2020 à 14 h 16
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True, but the issue I have with trying to move Addison is that it makes moving Dumba a non starter. It's why Guerin acquired him during the Zucker trade in the first place. It makes Dumba expendable.

Addison should be considered untouchable if you ask me.

Addison is more or less Dumba 2.0, an offensive defenseman, just with a slightly downgraded shot and better defensive potential.

Menell is a PMD, but isn't what I'd call an offensive one as he's pretty defensively sound. Again, exactly what the Kings are looking for.

The Kings need a Menell type more than they need or want a Dumba/Addison type. Whereas the Wild are more built to need/want a Dumba or Addison because we have the defensive defenseman on our left side to pair them with.
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Kupari should be of interest to you guys because he's right-handed (as is Madden). I think that ANY of the second-tier prospects are in the trade market (Anderson-Dolan, Madden, Kupari and Thomas -- in alphabetical order only). I disagree with my colleague @PuckLuck_77 both on the Dumba reasoning and the delay a year or two to decide what to do with all of the prospects. LA is thin on RD right now and I can see a deal in the "off-season" to address that thinness. And if Dumba replaces Doughty at 29 or 30, Matt should be coming into his prime, not already over the hill.

I'm not a favorite of trading Turcotte or Vilardi (who can play RW if Byfield and Turcotte become the #1 and #2 centers), just as I'm not a favorite of trading Walker or Roy or, for that matter, Fiala, Kaprizov, Addison (on whom I had my eye when he was with Pitt) or Menell. Which in my mind kinda restricts it to Dumba for a prospect or prospects plus or minus picks. However, I could see really good scouting coming up with a prospect(s)-Addison/Menell trade that would eventually benefit both teams. I'm just not good enough to choose the prospect(s) from the Kings side or the RD from the Wild side, and if I shift seats over to being the Minn GM I become really loath to release either.
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28 juin 2020 à 14 h 59
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Not sure the Kings would do it but I'd love to take Stutzle or Byfield. I like @csick idea of Dumba and Donato for Vilardi+. I forgot to include Akil Thomas in this list, but I really like the idea of Thomas and Vilardi for Dumba and Donato...

No thanks. Kings aren’t trading vilardi.

I’d want dumba but not for that package.
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