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Créé par: melloni17
Date de création initiale: jun 26, 2020
Publié: 26 jun à 16 h 41
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Explications
No idea if these are fair trade. Just messing around with different stuff trying to avoid repeating the same names over and over. If something seems off, do just say pass. explain your reasoning.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Kahun, Dominik21 750 000 $
Olofsson, Victor23 750 000 $
Ullmark, Linus22 250 000 $
Reinhart, Sam67 250 000 $
Lazar, Curtis21 250 000 $
Anderson, Josh22 250 000 $
Strome, Ryan34 250 000 $
Zadorov, Nikita44 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Larsson, Johan21 850 000 $
Transactions
BUF
  1. Anderson, Josh [Droits de RFA]
CBJ
  1. Thompson, Tage [Droits de RFA]
BUF
  1. Andersson, Lias
  2. Strome, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
NYR
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey [Droits de RFA]
  2. Asplund, Rasmus
  3. 2020 2e round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Zadorov, Nikita [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Buffalo gets gritty stay at home guy
COL
  1. Montour, Brandon [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Colorado gets puck moving D (would have put in Risto but seems he isnt liked elsewhere either haha plus Krueger seems to like Risto)
BUF
  1. Allen, Jake
STL
  1. Hutton, Carter
  2. 2021 4e round pick (BUF)
Rachats de contrats
  • Cody Hodgson: 791 667 $
  • Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
DAL
2021
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
2022
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
BUF
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $79 535 833 $0 $5 187 500 $1 964 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
BUF
Olofsson, Victor
3 750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Anderson, Josh
2 250 000 $
AD
RFA
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Strome, Ryan
4 250 000 $
C, AD
RFA
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
7 250 000 $
AD, C
RFA
NYR
Andersson, Lias
894 166 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
BUF
Cozens, Dylan
925 000 $
C
RFA - 2
BUF
Kahun, Dominik
1 750 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA
BUF
Johansson, Marcus
4 500 000 $
C, AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Larsson, Johan
1 850 000 $
C, AG
UFA
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
6 000 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 3
BUF
Lazar, Curtis
1 250 000 $
C, AD
RFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
2 250 000 $
G
RFA
Zadorov, Nikita
4 500 000 $
DG
RFA
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
STL
Allen, Jake
4 350 000 $
G
UFA - 1
BUF
McCabe, Jake
2 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
BUF
Miller, Colin
3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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26 jun à 16 h 48
#1
Ragsandbluesfan
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How do you feel about a lias/casey 1 for 1?
26 jun à 16 h 53
#2
LafreniereForCalder
Rejoint: oct 2018
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NYR accept
melloni17 a aimé ceci.
26 jun à 16 h 55
#3
Démarrer sujet
Rejoint: mai 2019
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
How do you feel about a lias/casey 1 for 1?


i dont mind it but I think Casey is valued a bit higher. That was my reasoning trying to pry Strome away
26 jun à 17 h 03
#4
Rejoint: mai 2017
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Rangers decline. Casey for Lias is an even swap. And Asplund just isn't a good enough prospect to pry Strome away with a 2nd (I don't think there is a prospect in the Sabres org that fits the bill since the drop off after Cozens is so massive)

But Casey for Lias and drop the rest makes sense for both teams.
26 jun à 17 h 26
#5
Discord COL's GM
Rejoint: mar 2018
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Blues don't want him back. If you want Allen give us a 3rd round pick guy has a .927 and a 2.15 GAA. He's good, but we don't want Hutton. We have Husso to move up.
mokumboi a aimé ceci.
26 jun à 17 h 29
#6
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COL accepts
26 jun à 17 h 46
#7
Rejoint: fév 2017
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Not really intetested in casey for lias.
26 jun à 18 h 31
#8
Rejoint: avr 2020
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Quoting: Xqb15
COL accepts


This is an interesting trade proposal, and makes me think a bit.

My first reaction was "nah, not a good fit, I'd rather just keep Zadorov".

But then I started thinking...

In terms of value, it probably slightly favours Colorado, since Montour was traded to Buffalo for a 1st + prospect 15 months ago. Zadorov's value is 2nd + 3rd.

In terms of position a trade makes sense too, since:
- Colorado are deep at LHD, and shallow at RHD.
--- Buffalo are deep at RHD, and shallow at LHD.

What intrigues me is how he would fit into the Colorado lineup.

I recently read the article below about Montour, which talks about how he's not really an "offensive Dman" - in terms of being good in the OZ. Rather, the article shows using analytics that he's actually better statistically when he starts in his own zone, as that allows him to play more in transition which is where his biggest strengths are.
https://www.diebytheblade.com/2020/1/31/21116374/brandon-montour-buffalo-sabres-could-benefit-from-a-shift-in-zone-deployment

With that in mind, I think he'd be a perfect fit next to Cole on the 3rd pairing. Cole gets a lot of Dzone starts and is very good in his own zone, but is pretty limited in transition. Putting Montour on a line with him would be a perfect combo, as Cole would clean up defensively, and Montour could handle the transitions.

Graves --- Makar
Girard ---- Johnson
Cole ------ Montour

That said, despite the good fit on the ice, I do still have three fairly significant reservations:

1) First of all, adding Montour would effectively block Byram and/or Timmins next season, and both seem ready to step up to the NHL.

2) Secondly, one of the main reasons for trading Zadorov in the first place is due to the fact that we would likely need to expose him in the ED. And the same would apply with Montour here. Needless to say, I'm not sure this is the best use of assets.

3) Lastly, Montour will likely be paid $3.5m+ to play on the bottom pairing which isn't a sustainable plan beyond 2021.

Now, do those reservations mean that I wouldn't agree to this trade? Not necessarily. It just means that I would want to have a serious think about the overall outlook of the D group before committing. Montour is clearly a good defenseman in transition which fits our style of play very well, but I'd nonetheless want to have a think about what the plan is for Byram and Timmins going forwards, and how soon I want to introduce them.

As a final point, another alternative would be to simply agree to this trade, play him for half a season and then flip him for a decent return when Timmins is more ready. I'm sure that half a season in our transition-oriented D would raise his stock quite a bit, compared to the dysfunctional group he was playing with in Buffalo.
26 jun à 18 h 49
#9
Rejoint: fév 2016
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Anderson is valuable to the Jackets because if he bounces back, we've got our speedy goal-scoring power forward back, which is a valuable weapon. Tage Thompson is a bust who is utterly valueless to the Jackets. That proposal is not just unacceptable, it's insulting.
26 jun à 18 h 58
#10
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Rangers decline. Casey for Lias is an even swap. And Asplund just isn't a good enough prospect to pry Strome away with a 2nd (I don't think there is a prospect in the Sabres org that fits the bill since the drop off after Cozens is so massive)

But Casey for Lias and drop the rest makes sense for both teams.


That is not an even swap. Asplund for anderson is a more fair swap. Maybe a bit towards the sabres so add maybe a 4th
26 jun à 19 h 11
#11
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Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
That is not an even swap. Asplund for anderson is a more fair swap. Maybe a bit towards the sabres so add maybe a 4th


lol
26 jun à 19 h 38
#12
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Quoting: Richard88

https://www.diebytheblade.com/2020/1/31/21116374/brandon-montour-buffalo-sabres-could-benefit-from-a-shift-in-zone-deployment


As a final point, another alternative would be to simply agree to this trade, play him for half a season and then flip him for a decent return when Timmins is more ready. I'm sure that half a season in our transition-oriented D would raise his stock quite a bit, compared to the dysfunctional group he was playing with in Buffalo.



This
26 jun à 20 h 05
#13
Rejoint: jun 2019
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Quoting: Sagecoll
lol


Lol
 
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