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    22 juin 2020 à 19 h 34
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    Its doable for both teams, but i feel like it might be an underpayment on the bruins part
    22 juin 2020 à 19 h 35
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    What don't you believe
    22 juin 2020 à 19 h 36
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    Quoting: Silkysmooth42
    Its doable for both teams, but i feel like it might be an underpayment on the bruins part


    That would screw the whole prospect pool of the bruins
    22 juin 2020 à 19 h 38
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    Quoting: Bananahockey
    That would screw the whole prospect pool of the bruins


    You are talking to the guy that has been explaining that to everyone lol

    Im just saying that if i think its light, you are gonna get a lot of guys saying its light
    22 juin 2020 à 19 h 39
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    Easy not from Buffalo
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    22 juin 2020 à 19 h 43
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    2 late 1sts, 2 B- prospects, and a 34 year old 2C rental for an elite talent? Eichel starts with McAvoy + Studnicka at least
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    22 juin 2020 à 20 h 12
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    I'm not as in love with eichel as most people are but it doesnt look like a package buffalo would want.
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    22 juin 2020 à 20 h 13
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    Thats a prett weak package for Buffalo. JFK is a 3rd liner at best and may never return. Krejci is a pending UFA and Vaak is a solid prospect with top 4 upside. The picks are most likely late round.
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    22 juin 2020 à 20 h 17
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    Quoting: Bananahockey
    That would screw the whole prospect pool of the bruins


    Honestly, who cares? Add Eichel and we're talking potential for multiple cups. Boston is pretty good at drafting and developing (not to mention picking up college and European UFAs). They get a legit top 5 1C and likely don't miss a beat from a cheap talent standpoint.
    22 juin 2020 à 20 h 19
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    Quoting: Silkysmooth42
    Its doable for both teams, but i feel like it might be an underpayment on the bruins part


    Nailed it. Too light. Krejci makes sense as Buffalo can turn around and flip him for more futures. Vaakanainen is a great piece. 1st are real late. WFK doesn't move the needle at all. Studnicka most likely needs to be in any deal. Add maybe one more NHL piece (Carlo or DeBrusk) and that should do it. Would be hard but still not impossible for other teams to beat. Deal as is gets outbid 20 or so times.
    22 juin 2020 à 20 h 23
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    Quoting: Taxtime
    Nailed it. Too light. Krejci makes sense as Buffalo can turn around and flip him for more futures. Vaakanainen is a great piece. 1st are real late. WFK doesn't move the needle at all. Studnicka most likely needs to be in any deal. Add maybe one more NHL piece (Carlo or DeBrusk) and that should do it. Would be hard but still not impossible for other teams to beat. Deal as is gets outbid 20 or so times.


    No now thats too much for the bruins to ever consider, but yeah what he has is too little, its gonna be somewhere in the middle IFFF it were to happen, but ITS NEVER GONNNNNNAAAAA HAPPPPEEEEENNN lololol
    22 juin 2020 à 20 h 28
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    Quoting: Silkysmooth42
    No now thats too much for the bruins to ever consider, but yeah what he has is too little, its gonna be somewhere in the middle IFFF it were to happen, but ITS NEVER GONNNNNNAAAAA HAPPPPEEEEENNN lololol


    Anything less, Sabres keep him. Which is almost certainly what's going to happen. Boston might see him in 2026.
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    22 juin 2020 à 21 h 18
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    Quoting: Silkysmooth42
    No now thats too much for the bruins to ever consider, but yeah what he has is too little, its gonna be somewhere in the middle IFFF it were to happen, but ITS NEVER GONNNNNNAAAAA HAPPPPEEEEENNN lololol


    Idk how Krejci, one of Debrusk/Carlo, Vaak, stud and 2 1sts is considered an overpay. Eichel is an elite talent. Vaak and stud are likely going to be good nhl players. Don’t think either will evolve into anything above that. The 2 1sts are lotto picks with every draft being a toss up. Krejci is a great player but you’re replacing him with eichel for a fraction of the price more contract wise. Giving up Debrusk or Carlo would be a tough pill to swallow, think giving up Carlo would be more detrimental to the line up. But you have to realize it’s a trade for a top 5 center. It isn’t going to be cheap. Bruins don’t really give up anything of significant value unless you place Debrusk and Carlo there but again at best theyre 2nd line/2nd pair type players. I just don’t agree with your valuing of a blockbuster for eichel, I do agree it doesn’t really make sense to make the trade though.
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    22 juin 2020 à 22 h 34
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    Quoting: ngikas
    Idk how Krejci, one of Debrusk/Carlo, Vaak, stud and 2 1sts is considered an overpay. Eichel is an elite talent. Vaak and stud are likely going to be good nhl players. Don’t think either will evolve into anything above that. The 2 1sts are lotto picks with every draft being a toss up. Krejci is a great player but you’re replacing him with eichel for a fraction of the price more contract wise. Giving up Debrusk or Carlo would be a tough pill to swallow, think giving up Carlo would be more detrimental to the line up. But you have to realize it’s a trade for a top 5 center. It isn’t going to be cheap. Bruins don’t really give up anything of significant value unless you place Debrusk and Carlo there but again at best theyre 2nd line/2nd pair type players. I just don’t agree with your valuing of a blockbuster for eichel, I do agree it doesn’t really make sense to make the trade though.


    Quoting: Bananahockey
    That would screw the whole prospect pool of the bruins


    This trade for Eichel isn't even close. You're going to likely have to give up: Beecher, Carlo, Studnicka, Debrusk, 2 1st's. That seems like a lot, I'm sure for Bruins fans. but that's what the market would yield right now for Eichel. You're also going to have to find a trading partner for Krejci to free up cap space. Buffalo isn't looking for a B- 34-yo 2C in an Eichel deal. Honestly though, I still don't think this would get them Eichel.
    22 juin 2020 à 22 h 41
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    Quoting: HGStebbins
    This trade for Eichel isn't even close. You're going to likely have to give up: Beecher, Carlo, Studnicka, Debrusk, 2 1st's. That seems like a lot, I'm sure for Bruins fans. but that's what the market would yield right now for Eichel. You're also going to have to find a trading partner for Krejci to free up cap space. Buffalo isn't looking for a B- 34-yo 2C in an Eichel deal. Honestly though, I still don't think this would get them Eichel.


    Any GM who thinks like that ^ ^ ^ is certifiable!
    NHLers gone from Pres Cup team = Carlo, DeBrusk, Krejci (collateral damage from CAP) and I'd argue Stud gets playoff time in 2019-20 if there is one...etc etc....
    tis' RUBBISH...
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    22 juin 2020 à 22 h 52
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    Quoting: McGruff
    Any GM who thinks like that ^ ^ ^ is certifiable!
    NHLers gone from Pres Cup team = Carlo, DeBrusk, Krejci (collateral damage from CAP) and I'd argue Stud gets playoff time in 2019-20 if there is one...etc etc....
    tis' RUBBISH...


    Call it rubbish all you want. That's what the market would bring for Eichel. Just because they are Bruins doesn't make them any more valuable. You're asking to bring in a player with the talent of David Pastrnak who plays center and is locked up for six years. What would it take for the Bruins to trade Pasta? You'd expect at least as much in return.
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    22 juin 2020 à 23 h 2
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    Quoting: Taxtime
    Anything less, Sabres keep him. Which is almost certainly what's going to happen. Boston might see him in 2026.


    Thats what im saying lol, its not gonna happen so idk why people keep trying.

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    Idk how Krejci, one of Debrusk/Carlo, Vaak, stud and 2 1sts is considered an overpay. Eichel is an elite talent. Vaak and stud are likely going to be good nhl players. Don’t think either will evolve into anything above that. The 2 1sts are lotto picks with every draft being a toss up. Krejci is a great player but you’re replacing him with eichel for a fraction of the price more contract wise. Giving up Debrusk or Carlo would be a tough pill to swallow, think giving up Carlo would be more detrimental to the line up. But you have to realize it’s a trade for a top 5 center. It isn’t going to be cheap. Bruins don’t really give up anything of significant value unless you place Debrusk and Carlo there but again at best theyre 2nd line/2nd pair type players. I just don’t agree with your valuing of a blockbuster for eichel, I do agree it doesn’t really make sense to make the trade though.


    Its an overpay NOT valuewise, but Playerwise. Bruins arent going to break the bank for him. THEY DONT NEED TO, they were a win away from the cup last year (tainted cup) and they are killing it this year. And they have a solid (and underrated) prospect pool. No need for Eichel whatsoever
    22 juin 2020 à 23 h 6
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    Quoting: HGStebbins
    Call it rubbish all you want. That's what the market would bring for Eichel. Just because they are Bruins doesn't make them any more valuable. You're asking to bring in a player with the talent of David Pastrnak who plays center and is locked up for six years. What would it take for the Bruins to trade Pasta? You'd expect at least as much in return.


    6/7 for 1 trades are so 80's....
    Lindros was that kinda trade back in the day and how many cups did he walk away with now??

    Correct! The same as Eichel...
    22 juin 2020 à 23 h 51
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    Quoting: Silkysmooth42
    Its an overpay NOT valuewise, but Playerwise. Bruins arent going to break the bank for him. THEY DONT NEED TO, they were a win away from the cup last year (tainted cup) and they are killing it this year. And they have a solid (and underrated) prospect pool. No need for Eichel whatsoever


    Yeah I agree on that part for sure. I was thinking you meant value wise in the trade my b
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    23 juin 2020 à 5 h 36
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    Quoting: HGStebbins
    Call it rubbish all you want. That's what the market would bring for Eichel. Just because they are Bruins doesn't make them any more valuable. You're asking to bring in a player with the talent of David Pastrnak who plays center and is locked up for six years. What would it take for the Bruins to trade Pasta? You'd expect at least as much in return.


    It would have to be more. No question.
    23 juin 2020 à 9 h 38
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    Quoting: ngikas
    Yeah I agree on that part for sure. I was thinking you meant value wise in the trade my b


    U good i was confusing and its a confusing distinction which i am trying to teach everyone rn (buffalo fans with Eichel, and Leafs fans who want Carlo for some reason)
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    JFK, playing in Sweden, back in demand.
    23 juin 2020 à 16 h 11
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    Quoting: McGruff
    6/7 for 1 trades are so 80's....
    Lindros was that kinda trade back in the day and how many cups did he walk away with now??

    Correct! The same as Eichel...


    I’m not going to argue that it’s a lot to give up. I’m not saying the Bruins should make the deal. I’m just saying that’s what the market will be. As far as the 6 for 1 deals not happening anymore... Karlsson and O’Reilly didn’t happen?
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    Quoting: HGStebbins
    I’m not going to argue that it’s a lot to give up. I’m not saying the Bruins should make the deal. I’m just saying that’s what the market will be. As far as the 6 for 1 deals not happening anymore... Karlsson and O’Reilly didn’t happen?


    Yeah and BUF-SJS had remorse almost instantaneously after-ward cause they c*cked it up...
    Happening is one thing, working and being effective is a whole other deal.
    Those deals are for desperate clubs and GMs (Eichel pull a hammy or worse (like EK)) and the GM is "done"...
     
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