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Créé par: ColonelX
Publié: 22 juin 2020 à 14 h 28
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 30/186 (16%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Hurricanes de la CarolineHurricanes de la Caroline

La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 9 775 000 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 3 737 500 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Bean, JakeExempté du ballottageHurricanes de la CarolineMineures-0 $011---0000--
Suzuki, RyanExempté du ballottageHurricanes de la CarolineJunior-0 $011---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Poehling, RyanExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalMineures-0 $011---27112--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Blues de St-LouisSTL)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial6 037 500 $2041664811
Variation0 $0-1-1010
Final6 037 500 $2040 (↓)65 (↓)49 (↑)11112

Logo de Canadiens de MontréalCanadiens de Montréal

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Poehling, RyanExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalMineures-0 $011---27112--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Blues de St-LouisSTL)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Bean, JakeExempté du ballottageHurricanes de la CarolineMineures-0 $011---0000--
Suzuki, RyanExempté du ballottageHurricanes de la CarolineJunior-0 $011---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial6 181 191 $21456131019
Variation0 $0110-10
Final6 181 191 $2146 (↑)62 (↑)39 (↓)19-1-10
22 juin 2020 à 15 h 16
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Yes but I think MTL might even have to replace the second with a higher second
22 juin 2020 à 15 h 20
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Yes but I think MTL might even have to replace the second with a higher second

Yeah we kinda have nothing in between in terms of 2nd rounders, something like adding a fourth could do the trick doe because a low 2nd + mid 4th could land you a mid-2nd in a trade.
22 juin 2020 à 15 h 22
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Yeah we kinda have nothing in between in terms of 2nd rounders, something like adding a fourth could do the trick doe because a low 2nd + mid 4th could land you a mid-2nd in a trade.


There is a great difference between pick 60 and 40 tho
22 juin 2020 à 15 h 27
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There is a great difference between pick 60 and 40 tho

I think that a very early 2nd would be giving too much but 60 seems low.
Either giving them next year's 2nd with a late third this year or the 60oa (That's likely to change if Blues don't win the cup) and a 4th would seems fine value wise?
22 juin 2020 à 15 h 31
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Yes but I think MTL might even have to replace the second with a higher second

I rather have two third than a late second.

I think Hudon need to be added to this trade.

MTL
HUDON
POEHLING
2x3rnd

CAR
SUZUKI
BEAN OR FLEURY
22 juin 2020 à 15 h 36
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I rather have two third than a late second.

I think Hudon need to be added to this trade.

MTL
HUDON
POEHLING
2x3rnd

CAR
SUZUKI
BEAN (ld) OR FLEURY (rd)


If two thirds they're not both for 2020, Washington this year and Montreal next? If so you're able to give a late pick 2021 back? (Like fifth or sixth)
Why would you want Hudon by the way?
22 juin 2020 à 15 h 46
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If two thirds they're not both for 2020, Washington this year and Montreal next? If so you're able to give a late pick 2021 back? (Like fifth or sixth)
Why would you want Hudon by the way?


If I'm Car, I'm not moving Bean. Putting that aside, I agree with other comments that Mtl would have to move up the pick a bit. If that takes a separate trade then so be it.
22 juin 2020 à 21 h 3
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If two thirds they're not both for 2020, Washington this year and Montreal next? If so you're able to give a late pick 2021 back? (Like fifth or sixth)
Why would you want Hudon by the way?


Hudon need a change of scenery. I believe the guy can fit well in CAR. He did well in QMJHL before getting toss by MTL.

MTL need to move picks
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23 juin 2020 à 0 h 19
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I don’t understand why the Hurricanes would do this. They’re giving up a former 1st who had a great season in the AHL this year and their 1st from this past draft for a guy that will be a good 3C at best and a late 2nd round pick.
23 juin 2020 à 9 h 5
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I don’t understand why the Hurricanes would do this. They’re giving up a former 1st who had a great season in the AHL this year and their 1st from this past draft for a guy that will be a good 3C at best and a late 2nd round pick.

Well Poehling is a 1st round pick also by that thinking.
Seriously I mean Ryan Suzuki doesn't project to be as good as his brother so could become a decent middle 6C, Carolina would basically trade for an already developed Poehling instead of waiting for Suzuki to do so (ETA for Suzuki should be 2022-23, one more year in the OHL and one year in the AHL or so, maybe a stint at the end of 2021-22). Bean had a very good year in the AHL but with Carolina's depth at LD it's almost impossible he gets a full time job there, at the moment they have Slavin, Skeij, Gardiner, Edmundson and Fleury at left defense (Plus Hamilton and Pesce on the right side). Poehling projects as a Danault kind of center, he'll become a shutdown guy with good faceoff skills in not so long but the fact that we're jammed down the middle (In Montreal and in Laval soon) makes it easier for us to move him, it's not like I was sending them a bust like McCarron.
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