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Créé par: Timmah007
Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2020
Publié: 21 juin 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 500 000 $
21 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 800 000 $
11 800 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]
COL
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas [Droits de RFA]
2.
EDM
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (WSH)
3.
EDM
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
OTT
  1. Benning, Matthew [Droits de RFA]
Rachats de contrats
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $80 506 032 $341 534 $730 000 $993 968 $
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance230 000 $$230K)
AD
RFA - 1
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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875 000 $875 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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915 000 $915 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC, NMC
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
RFA - 3
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
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850 000 $850 000 $
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UFA - 2

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21 juin 2020 à 19 h 4
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Jost is a worse center than Athanasiou. I'd rather keep the guy who can score goals and play him with McDavid.
21 juin 2020 à 19 h 9
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Jost is a worse center than Athanasiou. I'd rather keep the guy who can score goals and play him with McDavid.


Jost doesn’t play much C but he’s still very good defensively despite the lack of points, he still makes solid offensive contributions.

To be honest neither team would do ‘this trade. AA is always hurts and one year away from ufa. Doesn’t seem like a fit
21 juin 2020 à 19 h 11
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Honestly I would probably just keep AA. Jost is good, but not worth AA in my opinion. And are these your lines?? I don’t like them at all if they are. Your Smith contact might be a little too low. That’s just my lines, use them if you want..

My lines with the players you have on the roster:

Puljujarvi-McDavid-Kassian
Nuge-Draisaitl-Yamamoto
Nygard-Jost-Archibald
Sheahan-Khaira-Neal

Klefbom-Larsson
Nurse-Bear
Jones-Bouchard

Koskinen
Smith

Scratched: Haas, Russell.
21 juin 2020 à 19 h 26
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Jost doesn’t play much C but he’s still very good defensively


The defensive reason why I’d want him to help fill out bottom six. Can play wing have few versatile guys comfortable moving around for half the price as AA.
I feel better letting neal have a top six role for the year burning a year off his deal than signing AA for three million then pushing Neal into a role he can’t produce getting less value out of the more expensive asset.
21 juin 2020 à 19 h 30
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The defensive reason why I’d want him to help fill out bottom six. Can play wing have few versatile guys comfortable moving around for half the price as AA.
I feel better letting neal have a top six role for the year burning a year off his deal than signing AA for three million then pushing Neal into a role he can’t produce getting less value out of the more expensive asset.


I just seeing jost having a lot of value to the avs still bc like you said he’s good defensively and fills out lots of spots in the bottom 6. He was starting to pK at the end of the season stoppage too. Doesn’t jump off the page but a cost controlled on the cheap side, who makes solid contributions on both side of the ice, hes solid in his role . If he has 10 more points a season everyone would talk about how he’s such a good 2 way player
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21 juin 2020 à 19 h 37
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Honestly I would probably just keep AA. Jost is good, but not worth AA in my opinion. And are these your lines?? I don’t like them at all if they are. Your Smith contact might be a little too low. That’s just my lines, use them if you want..

My lines with the players you have on the roster:

Puljujarvi-McDavid-Kassian
Nuge-Draisaitl-Yamamoto
Nygard-Jost-Archibald
Sheahan-Khaira-Neal

Klefbom-Larsson
Nurse-Bear
Jones-Bouchard

Koskinen
Smith

Scratched: Haas, Russell.


I wouldn’t experiment with JP on his off wing. No sense in throwing any wrench’s in his game. Kassian could move over tho.
I don’t know how I feel about jones and bouch just doesn’t seem fitting for holland to break bouch in with a partner who has looked excellent at times is still very inexperienced so I’d start with Russell and ease jones and bouch together. The bottom six are all fairly versatile wasn’t really worried about those lines they could get juggled around in camp just want a responsible bottom six that are also excellent pk.
21 juin 2020 à 20 h 11
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No thanks. Colorado have no need for a player like Athanasiou who isn't really an ideal fit in the top 6 and doesn't play on the PK.
21 juin 2020 à 20 h 15
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I just seeing jost having a lot of value to the avs still bc like you said he’s good defensively and fills out lots of spots in the bottom 6. He was starting to pK at the end of the season stoppage too. Doesn’t jump off the page but a cost controlled on the cheap side, who makes solid contributions on both side of the ice, hes solid in his role . If he has 10 more points a season everyone would talk about how he’s such a good 2 way player


Yeah if Jost starts to hit 35+ points while providing consistently good defensive play and being solid on the PK then it would be dumb to trade him. That would be a very useful and cheap bottom 6 player to have in the lineup, and would effectively replace Compher should we lose him in the ED draft to Seattle.
21 juin 2020 à 20 h 25
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Quoting: CD282
Jost is a worse center than Athanasiou. I'd rather keep the guy who can score goals and play him with McDavid.


I actually like the Jost trade for Edmonton..
AA will have roughly double the cap hit and is close to free agency.
Jost is younger and could be the better long term choice.
You could argue against that, but I bet you the Oilers would strongly consider that
21 juin 2020 à 20 h 28
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I actually like the Jost trade for Edmonton..
AA will have roughly double the cap hit and is close to free agency.
Jost is younger and could be the better long term choice.
You could argue against that, but I bet you the Oilers would strongly consider that

I think from oilers perspective it makes sense I don’t know about avs.
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21 juin 2020 à 21 h 5
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Jost doesn’t play much C but he’s still very good defensively despite the lack of points, he still makes solid offensive contributions.

To be honest neither team would do ‘this trade. AA is always hurts and one year away from ufa. Doesn’t seem like a fit


Neither guy can win a faceoff to save their lives.
21 juin 2020 à 21 h 6
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I think from oilers perspective it makes sense I don’t know about avs.

How does it make sense for the Oilers? Jost is not a center.
21 juin 2020 à 21 h 39
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Neither guy can win a faceoff to save their lives.


thats why he doesn't play C....you seem to be hung up on that. He was used as a wing way more often than a C last season. I know the OP has him as a C, but he floats all over the place in all spots,
22 juin 2020 à 2 h 13
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benning is at best getting you 1 third not 2
I would be against AA for jost because AA has more potential to bounce back
22 juin 2020 à 9 h 37
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thats why he doesn't play C....you seem to be hung up on that. He was used as a wing way more often than a C last season. I know the OP has him as a C, but he floats all over the place in all spots,


Of course I'm hung up on that. This guy traded a winger for a worse winger and then justified it by putting him at center.
22 juin 2020 à 9 h 51
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Of course I'm hung up on that. This guy traded a winger for a worse winger and then justified it by putting him at center.

I traded to add defensive responsibility to a group of bottom six forwards that are defensively responsible rather than wanting to try to squeeze offence out of something that isn’t in the bottom six easier to turn those lines into pure shut down for the time being and allow prospects coming up in the next few years to provide the offence. AA didn’t look good next to mcdavid in that short stint and I rather just let neal fill that gap. If AA is soo much better then why aren’t avs fans jumping on this? AA is a defensive nightmare
22 juin 2020 à 9 h 59
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I traded to add defensive responsibility to a group of bottom six forwards that are defensively responsible rather than wanting to try to squeeze offence out of something that isn’t in the bottom six easier to turn those lines into pure shut down for the time being and allow prospects coming up in the next few years to provide the offence. AA didn’t look good next to mcdavid in that short stint and I rather just let neal fill that gap. If AA is soo much better then why aren’t avs fans jumping on this? AA is a defensive nightmare


Athanasiou played what - 2 games with McDavid? And he was injured in the first one? Give Tippett a minute to work with him for goodness sake.
22 juin 2020 à 10 h 7
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Athanasiou played what - 2 games with McDavid? And he was injured in the first one? Give Tippett a minute to work with him for goodness sake.


I get that it was a very short sample size and it could/might work out I’m just not a fan of AA
22 juin 2020 à 11 h 56
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Of course I'm hung up on that. This guy traded a winger for a worse winger and then justified it by putting him at center.


worse winger? You realize they had similar offensive seasons last year while one (jost) is much better defensively. (put into perspective Jost played in a bottom 6 role and AA was in a. Top 6 role and their totals were very similar)

You can say you dont like it but no need to exaggerate (you said previously you would rather have a winger who can play with McDavid..AA played what a game with him bc he was hurt again, his main issue of his whole career)
22 juin 2020 à 12 h 2
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worse winger? You realize they had similar offensive seasons last year while one (jost) is much better defensively. (put into perspective Jost played in a bottom 6 role and AA was in a. Top 6 role and their totals were very similar)

You can say you dont like it but no need to exaggerate (you said previously you would rather have a winger who can play with McDavid..AA played what a game with him bc he was hurt again, his main issue of his whole career)


I might be crazy in saying this and I know it’s a very small sample size but I find it very hard to justify resigning AA of the little we seen cutting losses on those picks now might be better than investing further into it getting out with a defensively responsible young player to fill out bottom six at half the price might not be popular choice but I also don’t see point in trying to build offence out of the pieces oilers have in bottom six. Just make sure they aren’t a liability and can provide a lot of pk options. It’s not ideal only having two scoring lines but over the next year or two have some young guys coming up that can start adding more.
22 juin 2020 à 12 h 36
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worse winger? You realize they had similar offensive seasons last year while one (jost) is much better defensively. (put into perspective Jost played in a bottom 6 role and AA was in a. Top 6 role and their totals were very similar)

You can say you dont like it but no need to exaggerate (you said previously you would rather have a winger who can play with McDavid..AA played what a game with him bc he was hurt again, his main issue of his whole career)


Athanasiou played in the bottom-6 on the worst team in like a decade. That's a very different animal than the role Jost played.
22 juin 2020 à 13 h 15
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Athanasiou played in the bottom-6 on the worst team in like a decade. That's a very different animal than the role Jost played.


thats just not true, he avg 6th among Detroit forwards in ice time per game, he wasnt getting played a bottom 6 role....avg a full min more than the next guy.
Im just saying you seem to be very negative on Jost for no reason and trying to over exaggerate AA in the process of tearing down Jost
 
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