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Marner To Dallas

Créé par: AnalyticsGeek
Équipe: 2021-22 Stars de Dallas
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2020
Publié: 21 juin 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I understand that this trade heavily favours Dallas in terms of player value, but the benefit of making this exchange is so the Leafs can clear like 6 million in cap space. That gives them enough money to sign Mikheyev, Dermott as well as another free agent like DeMelo.

Their team could look like:

Robertson (.925) - Tavares (11) - Nylander (6.9)
Johnsson (3.4) - Matthews (11.7) - Kapanen (3.2)
Mikheyev (2) - Kerfoot (3.5) - Hyman (2.25)
Engvall (1.25) - Gauthier (.8) - Spezza (.8)

Muzzin (5.6) - Holl (2)
Rielly (5) - Klingberg (4.25)
Dermott (2) - DeMelo (4)

Andersen (5)
Campbell (1.35)

Petan (.775)
Marincin (.7)

Total Cap Hit: 78.4 / 81.5 Million
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
49 000 000 $
24 500 000 $
22 250 000 $
22 500 000 $
1900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 500 000 $
3950 000 $
2900 000 $
22 500 000 $
63 850 000 $
21 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Schneider, Braden
3894 166 $
Transactions
1.
DAL
    Seattle Expansion Draft
    VGK
    1. Pavelski, Joe
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (DAL)
    2.
    DAL
    1. DeSmith, Casey
    PIT
    1. Dickinson, Jason [Droits de RFA]
    3.
    DAL
    1. Marner, Mitchell (1 893 000 $ retained)
    TOR
    1. Klingberg, John
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
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    2020
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2383 000 000 $83 194 572 $927 073 $1 045 000 $-194 572 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Stars de Dallas
    Benn, Jamie
    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    AG, C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    Seguin, Tyler
    9 850 000 $9 850 000 $
    C, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    Radulov, Alexander
    6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
    AD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Stars de Dallas
    Hintz, Roope
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
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    Dellandrea, Ty
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
    AD
    RFA - 2
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    Marner, Mitchell
    9 010 000 $9 010 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 4
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    Robertson, Jason
    795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Stars de Dallas
    Gurianov, Denis
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Clifford, Kyle
    950 000 $950 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Kühnhackl, Tom
    900 000 $900 000 $
    AD
    UFA
    Logo de Stars de Dallas
    Faksa, Radek
    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 4
    Ryan, Derek
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Stars de Dallas
    Lindell, Esa
    5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Stars de Dallas
    Heiskanen, Miro
    9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Stars de Dallas
    Bishop, Ben
    4 916 667 $4 916 667 $
    G
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    McCabe, Jake
    3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Stars de Dallas
    Johns, Stephen
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA
    Logo de Stars de Dallas
    Exempté du ballottageHarley, Thomas
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
    DG
    RFA - 3
    Hjalmarsson, Niklas
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA
    Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
    DeSmith, Casey
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Stars de Dallas
    Tufte, Riley
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Schneider, Braden
    894 166 $894 166 $
    Logo de Stars de Dallas
    Gardner, Rhett
    900 000 $900 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2

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    21 juin 2020 à 17 h 21
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    21 juin 2020 à 17 h 25
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    I'll tell you what's not gonna take place. That Marner for Klingberg trade. Dallas can't take that due to cap compliance issues. For one Salary Cap has already been stated as staying the same as it was, so that 4 Million comes back down. Yes they could use the offense, but not when you are over the cap space by 4 million dollars. And even tho it is 2021-22 that you are looking at I don't think it's plausible to move up 4 million dollars in cap space when NHL just got hit with a big loss in money.
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    21 juin 2020 à 17 h 25
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite


    You are a robot, programed to troll Marner
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    21 juin 2020 à 17 h 36
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    thats a joke try heiskanen for marner
    21 juin 2020 à 17 h 42
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    Quoting: Ryancnbb
    thats a joke try heiskanen for marner


    You thinking Marner is even close to Heiskanen in value is even more of a joke.
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    21 juin 2020 à 17 h 44
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    21 juin 2020 à 17 h 52
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    I'll tell you what's not gonna take place. That Marner for Klingberg trade. Dallas can't take that due to cap compliance issues. For one Salary Cap has already been stated as staying the same as it was, so that 4 Million comes back down. Yes they could use the offense, but not when you are over the cap space by 4 million dollars. And even tho it is 2021-22 that you are looking at I don't think it's plausible to move up 4 million dollars in cap space when NHL just got hit with a big loss in money.


    Yeah, but he's playing on the second line. Surely that's worth a discount?
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    21 juin 2020 à 17 h 52
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    We'll trade you Manson, Rakell, and a week at Disneyland for the whole team during bye week.

    No using the mini-bars, though.
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    21 juin 2020 à 17 h 54
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    Not happening. TOR is not moving Marner for Klinger, nor can Dallas afford such a move...

    Also that Heiskanen contract doesn't work. He's not getting that kind of money with only 4 year term. That money should bring him to a 8 year deal
    21 juin 2020 à 17 h 54
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    Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
    I'll tell you what's not gonna take place. That Marner for Klingberg trade. Dallas can't take that due to cap compliance issues. For one Salary Cap has already been stated as staying the same as it was, so that 4 Million comes back down. Yes they could use the offense, but not when you are over the cap space by 4 million dollars. And even tho it is 2021-22 that you are looking at I don't think it's plausible to move up 4 million dollars in cap space when NHL just got hit with a big loss in money.


    That’s fair. I could lower the cap to maybe 83/83.5 & get Toronto to retain 1.5-2 million of Marner’s contract while adding a third/fourth from Dallas’ end.
    21 juin 2020 à 17 h 55
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    Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
    You are a robot, programed to troll Marner


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    thats a joke try heiskanen for marner


    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
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    Did you read the description I wrote about how Toronto can become a cup contender after they make this trade?
    21 juin 2020 à 18 h 5
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Did you read the description I wrote about how Toronto can become a cup contender after they make this trade?


    Take a wild guess as to why people think your marner trade is bad, hint, its the same as it always is
    21 juin 2020 à 18 h 41
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite


    I still don’t see this trade ever working
    21 juin 2020 à 18 h 49
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Did you read the description I wrote about how Toronto can become a cup contender after they make this trade?


    They wouldn't. Their offense would be significantly weaker after such a trade.

    Also Rielly and Klingberg as a pair would be terrible to watch on their own end. Neither is exactly a two-way D...
    21 juin 2020 à 19 h 1
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    Quoting: Ryancnbb
    thats a joke try heiskanen for marner


    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. If you wanted Heiskanen it would take Marner++.
    21 juin 2020 à 19 h 4
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    Not happening. TOR is not moving Marner for Klinger, nor can Dallas afford such a move...

    Also that Heiskanen contract doesn't work. He's not getting that kind of money with only 4 year term. That money should bring him to a 8 year deal


    Quoting: justaBoss
    They wouldn't. Their offense would be significantly weaker after such a trade.

    Also Rielly and Klingberg as a pair would be terrible to watch on their own end. Neither is exactly a two-way D...


    I feel Heiskanen & Dahlin are worth 9 Million on a bridge deal. Most likely they’ll get less but for me, they are franchise defencemen so they should get paid like one.

    Obviously the Leafs get weaker losing a star forward in Marner, but I feel overall it’s a more balanced team. Gotta keep in mind they still have 3 elite forwards, plus put Kapanen in the top 6 with Matthews, I’d expect him to produce maybe 50 points as well.

    You’re right about the Rielly-Klingberg pairing. Perhaps they could give Muzzin-Holl or Dermott-DeMelo the tough matchups & Rielly-Klingberg are more sheltered to create offence.
    21 juin 2020 à 19 h 6
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    Take a wild guess as to why people think your marner trade is bad, hint, its the same as it always is


    I agree, it’s not a fair trade value wise, but you’re looking at the whole picture. Not only do they Leafs get Klingberg, they get to sign another top 4 RHD in free agency as well like DeMelo who’s very good. That solidifies the defence corps & puts them in a better position to compete.
    21 juin 2020 à 19 h 13
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    I agree, it’s not a fair trade value wise, but you’re looking at the whole picture. Not only do they Leafs get Klingberg, they get to sign another top 4 RHD in free agency as well like DeMelo who’s very good. That solidifies the defence corps & puts them in a better position to compete.


    It's not fair value wise. full stop. If you want to argue that cap space, yadda yadda, then you still need to fill in the additional value coming from Dallas.
    21 juin 2020 à 19 h 17
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Did you read the description I wrote about how Toronto can become a cup contender after they make this trade?


    They are a contender and you are a robot
    21 juin 2020 à 19 h 18
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    My boy Mitch Marner has one year that is meh, and everyone trades him for the worst offers of life. The guy was still on pace for 90+ pts in a full season. Stop lowballing him. Look at any other promising young winger, traded after a down year. Doesn’t usually go well
    21 juin 2020 à 19 h 25
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    I feel Heiskanen & Dahlin are worth 9 Million on a bridge deal. Most likely they’ll get less but for me, they are franchise defencemen so they should get paid like one.

    Obviously the Leafs get weaker losing a star forward in Marner, but I feel overall it’s a more balanced team. Gotta keep in mind they still have 3 elite forwards, plus put Kapanen in the top 6 with Matthews, I’d expect him to produce maybe 50 points as well.

    You’re right about the Rielly-Klingberg pairing. Perhaps they could give Muzzin-Holl or Dermott-DeMelo the tough matchups & Rielly-Klingberg are more sheltered to create offence.


    No, they're not. Franchise players in general don't get signed to bridge deals unless the team is in a big financial doodoo.

    If the elite 4 of d-prospects (Heiskanen, Makar, Hughes, Dahlin) would take bridge deals, the amount would be in the ballpark of what players like Point, Laine and Tkachuk got. That's the whole point of a bridge deal.

    $9M is such an excessive amount (over 10% of the teams cap space) no one in their right mind would consider that a bridge deal money. $9M would make Heiskanen the highest paid LHD in the entire league...
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    21 juin 2020 à 19 h 27
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    The Leafs are better off with keeping Marner. The cap savings don't make this worth it
    21 juin 2020 à 20 h 40
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite


    Doesn’t work for me. Marner deal wouldn’t work for either team. Feel like you’re giving Dickinson away for free. Forces Dellandrea and Harley into bigger roles than they may be ready for, etc.

    I know I’ve mentioned possibility of having to go younger and with more internal options than usual vs free agency due to revenue losses, but feel like this could be forcing too many dynamics to change in one offseason.

    Having said that, lot of new territory upon us, so could see some things we’d likely not typically expect from a number of teams including Dallas.
    21 juin 2020 à 20 h 47
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Yeah, but he's playing on the second line. Surely that's worth a discount?


    LOL
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    21 juin 2020 à 20 h 48
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    That’s fair. I could lower the cap to maybe 83/83.5 & get Toronto to retain 1.5-2 million of Marner’s contract while adding a third/fourth from Dallas’ end.


    Ok why would Toronto retain? Basically what our saying is do another Phil Kessel deal and we see how much that bit them in the ass the last time.
     
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