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letting go of a core player

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Équipe: 2020-21 Golden Knights de Vegas
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2020
Publié: 21 juin 2020
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  1. Mantha, Anthony [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
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  2. Smith, Reilly
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  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
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  1. Cousins, Nick [Droits de RFA]
  2. Tuch, Alex
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
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21 juin 2020 à 16 h 33
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DET would probably prefer to keep Mantha.
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21 juin 2020 à 16 h 39
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How does this benefit Detroit? Reilly Smith is 29 years old Mantha will be 26 on September 16th Hague would be a nice piece for a LD prospect big kid at 6'6. But Detroit would easily decline that offer.
21 juin 2020 à 16 h 45
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Yzerman would want Tuch for Mantha they're pretty similar players both height wise and scoring wise. Tuch is 24 years old and fits our rebuild more then a 29 year old Reilly Smith.
21 juin 2020 à 16 h 53
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Brad Boyes please Wq
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GOD no
21 juin 2020 à 17 h 10
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If you switch Reilly to Tuch they probably accept
21 juin 2020 à 17 h 12
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Take out the 2nd and Ottawa still accepts
21 juin 2020 à 17 h 37
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Vegas and Detroit trade seems like fans from both sides don't like it.
21 juin 2020 à 17 h 53
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Glass and the first and it's a deal
21 juin 2020 à 18 h 30
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Quoting: redw1n9s
Glass and the first and it's a deal


mantha won't get glass... but hague is a fairly skilled LD prospect

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Vegas and Detroit trade seems like fans from both sides don't like it.


What's your take?

My mentality with Smith is that he can be a merger player that is easily flipped at the deadline for picks
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21 juin 2020 à 19 h 0
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mantha won't get glass... but hague is a fairly skilled LD prospect



What's your take?

My mentality with Smith is that he can be a merger player that is easily flipped at the deadline for picks


Ya this deal as is doesn't really work for DET. I love Smith, think he's one of the most underrated players in the league, but that first doesn't guarantee to be better than Mantha, Smith is 29 and does Hague move the needle for this team?...no.
21 juin 2020 à 19 h 6
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Quoting: redw1n9s
Ya this deal as is doesn't really work for DET. I love Smith, think he's one of the most underrated players in the league, but that first doesn't guarantee to be better than Mantha, Smith is 29 and does Hague move the needle for this team?...no.


hague would immediately be your #1 LD prospect... i'd say he's better than johansson, mcissac and cholowski long term
21 juin 2020 à 19 h 26
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hague would immediately be your #1 LD prospect... i'd say he's better than johansson, mcissac and cholowski long term


Have you heard of Moritz Seider....lol. Who cares what side he's on. Also what if they draft Drysdale?

Point is Hague isn't worth Mantha, even with that mid-1st. No deal.
21 juin 2020 à 19 h 34
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Have you heard of Moritz Seider....lol. Who cares what side he's on. Also what if they draft Drysdale?

Point is Hague isn't worth Mantha, even with that mid-1st. No deal.


drysdale is a RD also... side matters with defense... you can have a great right side and a bad left side, but the bad side brings everyone down.

consider the rangers and how bad their left side was this year... if their lines were balanced they could have an elite back end
21 juin 2020 à 19 h 34
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Have you heard of Moritz Seider....lol. Who cares what side he's on. Also what if they draft Drysdale?

Point is Hague isn't worth Mantha, even with that mid-1st. No deal.


drysdale is a RD also... side matters with defense... you can have a great right side and a bad left side, but the bad side brings everyone down.

consider the rangers and how bad their left side was this year... if their lines were balanced they could have an elite back end
21 juin 2020 à 20 h 2
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mantha won't get glass... but hague is a fairly skilled LD prospect What's your take?

My mentality with Smith is that he can be a merger player that is easily flipped at the deadline for picks


I think Smith is too old to make it work. You can flip him at the deadline isn't a selling point the last couple of seasons players just aren't bringing in the kind of returns they once did.
21 juin 2020 à 20 h 3
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I think Smith is too old to make it work. You can flip him at the deadline isn't a selling point the last couple of seasons players just aren't bringing in the kind of returns they once did.


he has term though, which i think is a changing point. Big returns didn't happen this year due to the skill level of this draft
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21 juin 2020 à 20 h 35
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drysdale is a RD also... side matters with defense... you can have a great right side and a bad left side, but the bad side brings everyone down.

consider the rangers and how bad their left side was this year... if their lines were balanced they could have an elite back end


Ya side matters but you're assuming LH play left and RH play right. Either way the most valuable piece here is the 1st and I don't think it's worth Mantha. Definitely not a bad offer considering most of the garbage that is proposed on this site but I'd be upset if SY pulled the trigger on it.
21 juin 2020 à 20 h 39
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he has term though, which i think is a changing point. Big returns didn't happen this year due to the skill level of this draft


True but the returns aren't going to get much better until the new TV deal is in place. We probably aren't going to see a substantial cap increase for the next 2 seasons. I also think that is when the NHL is back to their normal schedule. The next couple of seasons are going to be a little crazy.
 
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