Rantanen has to be the main piece coming back. Tyson Jost has the same NHL ppg than Casey Mittlestadt so I would think the Sabres would decline.

That will never happen. You're not getting any superstars out of Eichel. Teams trading for Eichel would not be looking for a change-up. They will only be upgrading.

are you saying that you think Rantanen is better than Eichel? Eichel is a definite upgrade

Eichel is an upgrade from Rantanen. I'm saying that teams trading for him will not be moving any roster players unless they are minor pieces. If you move roster players in return for Eichel, then you aren't upgrading your team as much.

No bc no player in the nhl realistically is sorry gut a team and farm system for one player

The nhl today isn’t set up for that

No you’re not getting a rants player back

If Sabre’s move eichel is bc they are blowing it up and rebuilding from the group up building up dahlin, they aren’t getting impact players going into their prime back

Yes.

Nevertheless, finding a winger who will play with MacKinnon or Eichel in top 6 is easier than making such an elite center in your team.

It makes no sense, team is ten years old without a playoff. We can no longer rebuild again.

I expanded the post

It’s a no

You can’t compete now though...what is the hope? Win the lottery? Spend in ufa? Both haven’t worked yet. Unless you move Reinhart and restock what realistically can the Sabre’s do Short term especially if eichel Is frustrated

I’m generally curious bc I have no clue what they should do

That being the case the Sabres aren't trading him for late first round picks so unless Colorado acquired some higher draft picks elsewhere they would not be a good fit.

We must strengthen roster in the offseason and try to fight for the playoffs, there is simply no other way. If in the end nothing works out and Eichel asks for trade in a year, we should not trade it for futures, at least one elite or very good player should return in the deal, because if we trade it for a futures package it will be just awful, the team will again at the very bottom of the table and the fans simply won’t go to hockey, and many people already hate owners, imagine what will happen if we trade Jack for futures?

You'd think a team that's rebuilding for so long would at least have plenty of solid depth players coming from their system. But the Sabres lack a lot of depth. Most of their early draft picks are playing somewhere else and that O'Reilly trade was extremely bad for the Sabres. They lack depth offensively, Dahlin and Jokiharju are fine pieces defensively but they need at least another good defenseman. Risto and Montour both had a negative impact offensively and defensively. And Buffalo is also still without a true #1 goalie. What are they going to do? Overpay like 4 to 5 players on the UFA market? Their division is pretty good and Ottawa has already done a better job at rebuilding than Buffalo. Hate to say it, but it doesn't look good for them

I can agree with that, but you wont get a a Rants level of player back. For arguments sake from the Avs its a package built around Byram, probably multiple draft picks and either young NHLer like Compher or Kaut. Just guys arent moving franchise level players for franchise level players. If star power is the target back, nothing really in it for the trading partner team to move their own for Eichel, thats a move for the sake of making a move

Do you think Reinhart is going to get moved?

Maybe change Timmins to Graves and it might work. We have little RHD depth so can't be trading Timmins away without a replacement.

Graves would also be a better fit for Buffalo since you are loaded with RHD's already (i.e Risto, Miller, Jokiharju, Montour). Graves would be ideal as the 2nd pair LHD behind Dahlin. You could send us a lesser LHD back, like McCabe as that would help us fill the LHD spot vacated by Graves in the top 4 until Byram is ready.

As for the roster, if we acquired Eichel it would probably mean that we'd trade Kadri as he wouldn't be happy to once again be a 3C. We'd probably trade him for a young and cheap top 6 forward.

Nevertheless, I hope that we will receive a good comeback that can help us here and now. At least teams like Vancouver and Calgary can offer Horvat+ and Monahan+, it will make more sense than just a futures package.

I have no idea, I hope he remains in the team.

tough for teams to move guys on good contracts, but I know what you are saying...you have to target them.
Reinhart and the Avs as a trade makes a 100 times more sense than the eichel stuff. All depends what happens with him and if they are willing to pay him some money.

Yes, we lack depth, but not so terrible as it seems. It is unfortunate that our two former grandmasters were idiots, I hope this time more luck.

We have an elite franchise center and a defender franchise, this is a great basis to build team, and they are both young enough. Jokiharju is a very promising RD, we have a lot of defense prospects, I do not think that defense is now the main problem. We have quite solid wingers for top 6: Reinhart, Olofsson and Skinner. This season did not work for Skinner, but I think that he will return to his production figures in Carolina. There are good players for the top 9: Kahun and Johansson, Mittelstad and Thompson, if they progress, can also contribute. There is a good prospect Cozens, who will probably play Buffalo next season. Ullmark spent a pretty solid season, but Hutton, on the contrary, played terribly and we lost a lot of points because of him.

We need at least an average 2C for 1-2 years, while Cozens may not be ready yet and Mittelstadt will not find his game, LD #3 - #5, just a more reliable goalie than Hutton, who will play for us about 30 games and can be reliable behind Ullmark and possibly the top 9 RW.

Yes, I thought about it, Colorado might be among those who would be are interested in Reinhart.

that's already a huge haul because they get Newhook (bluechip prospect), Timmins(very good prospect), a good D in Zadorov, and a late 1st in a deep draft.

I think they Would be, and even in a flat cap situation, avs could play him up to 7m a season if he asks for that. Then avs top 6 for a long time is done

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I would want Rantanen, Newhook and a first that’s fair. Eichel and Nate dog would be the best 1-2 punch down the middle.

But I wouldn't trade him cheaply.

Honestly not a bad offer at its core. It would have to be tweaked a bit. Graves makes more sense for Buffalo than Timmins. Hope it doesn't come to trading Eichel but this would be a competitive offer.