Two bad trades

Finally, a leafs fan who understands the value of Pesce

brassard not enough, clifford not enough, vlad too much, 21 man roster here.
rather have mikheyev at 2RW over vlad at that price,
move kerfoot to LW and give brassard 3C assignment assuming hes bounced back and spezza at 4C
rather get full cap relief for johnsson instead of just a ~1 mill, put barabanov at 3LW, and korshkov 4RW.
I dont agree with any of this but i think this allows the lines to at least make *some* sense with actual cap space.

Your analysis made the Leafs even worse.

LOL, the kid forgets mikheyev, i insert him in. i consider getting more cap space, switch lines up to make more sense regarding the trades and signings HE made, and i made them worse? i like robertson but I think most people agree he wont be thrown to the wolves, or even be ready for that. but yeah, i am the one who made them worse. i forgot about engvall, if i put him in will that break the camels back for you?

I did not forget about Mikheyev. I do not see how the Leafs will sign him and I do believe re-signing will be risky since he almost had a career ending injury.

nah, not paying that price for Pesce, he's coming off a major shoulder injury and not worth peak value!

Pesce in general has surprised a lot of people and his contract would fit well with the leafs.

If Carolina offered the leafs pesce it would be interesting to see what they would pay for him

ah yes, i did not forget about him but i provide no information regarding him in the original post. ingenious. Mikh at close to 2 million or vlad at 5.6.... hmmmm i cant seem to choose. if you can sign clifford for a million, id assume mikheyev makes what, 650k based on your "thought" process? also, players have come back from worse injuries, and you trading johnsson after a major knee surgery seems hypocritical. id mention dermott but youd also tell me "dont see how we sign" even though you drop 5.6 on vlad as if hes nylander 2.0. my brain aches. please consider all factors or mention your thoughts/decisions. having players vanish in thin air doesnt exactly help much.

If we were to deal Nylander, the way I like to look at this trade is:

Carolina: Nylander
Leafs: Pesce and 2 million in cap space to address other needs.

When have I ever said Vlad is a Nylander 2.0? The initial trade was utilized to acquire Brett Pesce for Nylander. If you are getting upset over other people's posts, then cap friendly may not be healthy for you. Go for a walk.

No, this guy's is just falling victim to the hype. Nylander is superior to Pesce and it's not close.

Or I would do the trade in a heartbeat. I would love Pesce on the Leafs and trading Nylander is a fair value. Anything less is Leaf fans trying to be greedy.

No it isn't. Pesce is so overrated. He's a secondary piece who is good but he isn't and never will be elite. He's a product of the system in Carolina, better players do the hard stuff and he benefits.

You saved all that cap on too iffy trades then wasted the cap on Namestivov. Surely 5.6m could be spend better like for at least 22 man roster, a Dman and Mikheyvov. Widely optimist that Robertson, and Barbanov can be contributors

He's a troll you gullible goose.

Pesce is clearly valuable - but he's not getting you a 22 year old pacing for:

- 38 goals
- 34 assists
- 72 points

Who has played surprisingly solid defense all year (and is at a PPG with his new coach).

Coming from the guy who "doesn't want to re-sign Mihkeyev"

He was playing like the best undrafted Euro signing since Panarin.

You're not a leaf fan.

Wow you don't know anything about hockey. Learn a new sport.

So the correct move is to not re-sign Mikheyev? ... For a small amount of money?

This is what it would take for Carolina to move him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Oh by bad.

I thought I was talking to a guy with Caniac as his screen name.

Not the GM of Carolina.