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Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
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If this were a basic trade package, with teams needing to add to either side, would you do it? or could you see it being possible? Both contracts are not ideal but the money stays the same, Trouba has an extra year on his. Both overpaid of course. Trouba would look better under Elis, paired with Ekholm. Rangers get picks because Trouba is younger now and also giving up Strome so that Nashville's center depth doesn't take as much of a hit
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19 juin 2020 à 17 h 14
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Nashville doesn't need Trouba and Strome isn't a good fit.
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Johansen to 2RW, Chytil to 2C, Kakko to 3RW and make space for a 3RD and a 4RW and some depth dudes
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19 juin 2020 à 17 h 17
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Nashville doesn't need Trouba and Strome isn't a good fit.


I think Trouba would play well with Ekholm, better than Fabbro does
19 juin 2020 à 17 h 20
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I think Trouba would play well with Ekholm, better than Fabbro does


I agree, but why would they trade away from their C depth to have $8M allocated to an already solid defense when scoring is their biggest woes? Feel like they'd rather just use it on bring back Smith and Granlund
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19 juin 2020 à 17 h 30
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Value-wise this trade is right on the money. Trouba = Johansen and Strome = the 2 Nashville 2nds.

Fabbro was pretty rough last year and Strome fills the role that Craig Smith is leaving pretty nicely. It makes sense. Whether it makes sense for Nashville fans who tend to view Fabbro a lot more optimistically is another story.
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19 juin 2020 à 17 h 37
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Expansion draft would make this very rough for Nashville. They'd have something like 5 D-man to protect with Josi, Ellis, Trouba, Ekholm and Fabbro...

I don't think they'd be after D strengthening - especially one with a full NMC.
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19 juin 2020 à 17 h 41
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Value-wise this trade is right on the money. Trouba = Johansen and Strome = the 2 Nashville 2nds.

Fabbro was pretty rough last year and Strome fills the role that Craig Smith is leaving pretty nicely. It makes sense. Whether it makes sense for Nashville fans who tend to view Fabbro a lot more optimistically is another story.


Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
I agree, but why would they trade away from their C depth to have $8M allocated to an already solid defense when scoring is their biggest woes? Feel like they'd rather just use it on bring back Smith and Granlund


The deal only really makes some sense when you consider the cap hits...Both players are probably overpaid by around 2 mill. So Preds get a replacement at center that will be more affordable, and Preds can turn Johansen's questionable contract into a better situation for them, giving them more depth on the right side, and the Rangers replace the Trouba contract with a contract thats equally as questionable, but has some good potential to help their scoring. Its based on the fact that the 8 mill would be there either way...just a chance for Rangers to switch it into offense rather than a jam packed right side D, in which it is looking like Trouba is the third best guy
19 juin 2020 à 17 h 43
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The deal only really makes some sense when you consider the cap hits...Both players are probably overpaid by around 2 mill. So Preds get a replacement at center that will be more affordable, and Preds can turn Johansen's questionable contract into a better situation for them, giving them more depth on the right side, and the Rangers replace the Trouba contract with a contract thats equally as questionable, but has some good potential to help their scoring. Its based on the fact that the 8 mill would be there either way...just a chance for Rangers to switch it into offense rather than a jam packed right side D, in which it is looking like Trouba is the third best guy


yeah I mean cap hits are equal. On ice value is mostly equal, and the difference is just filling each other's positional needs. it makes sense.
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Expansion draft would make this very rough for Nashville. They'd have something like 5 D-man to protect with Josi, Ellis, Trouba, Ekholm and Fabbro...

I don't think they'd be after D strengthening - especially one with a full NMC.


a good point...Although Ekholm will be on his last year, so they could roll the dice and hope Seattle goes for someone younger and not expiring after the year....but it would be hard to pass up on knowing what Vegas made out of their veteran selections
19 juin 2020 à 17 h 47
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a good point...Although Ekholm will be on his last year, so they could roll the dice and hope Seattle goes for someone younger and not expiring after the year....but it would be hard to pass up on knowing what Vegas made out of their veteran selections


Yeah...think Ekholm would easily be the best option...assuming they protect 4F and 4D (my guess is Forsberg, Arvidsson, Duchene, Strome, Josi, Ellis, Trouba and Fabbro), that'd leave Ekholm, Sissons, Jarnkrok and Trenin as the best options to be picked - if they won't do any other moves that is.
19 juin 2020 à 17 h 55
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Yeah...think Ekholm would easily be the best option...assuming they protect 4F and 4D (my guess is Forsberg, Arvidsson, Duchene, Strome, Josi, Ellis, Trouba and Fabbro), that'd leave Ekholm, Sissons, Jarnkrok and Trenin as the best options to be picked - if they won't do any other moves that is.


Although looking at that list, I would probably expose Strome instead of Ekholm. Assuming Strome takes a step back from putting up 60 points again if this move were to happen.
As odd as it would be to protect only 3 forwards...they can only take one, so as much as it hurts a little no matter what, its only gotta be one of: Strome, Jarnkrok, Sissons, Trenin....Youre still left with 3 good players whatever happens
19 juin 2020 à 18 h 10
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Although looking at that list, I would probably expose Strome instead of Ekholm. Assuming Strome takes a step back from putting up 60 points again if this move were to happen.
As odd as it would be to protect only 3 forwards...they can only take one, so as much as it hurts a little no matter what, its only gotta be one of: Strome, Jarnkrok, Sissons, Trenin....Youre still left with 3 good players whatever happens


That kind of ruins the point of this trade, now does it. Think NSH's interest would significantly drop if they'd have to leave a big piece of it unprotected...
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I don't hate the Johansen/Trouba part of the deal, but I'm not interested in Strome for NSH.
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19 juin 2020 à 18 h 19
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That kind of ruins the point of this trade, now does it. Think NSH's interest would significantly drop if they'd have to leave a big piece of it unprotected...


Well theoretically that same logic would apply to any acquisition in the next two years, if the term on the player is 2 years or more, for any team.
If this deal happened, Rangers would have to protect:
Mika
Panarin
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Chytil
Buch
Tony
Lindgren
- and then one of Johansen, Lemieux, or Gauthier.

So wed lose one for certain, which is a bummer no matter what....

Now what if it were Trouba for Johansen 1 for 1...Does it make more sense to do that and look for a different partner to trade Strome with
19 juin 2020 à 18 h 19
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I don't hate the Johansen/Trouba part of the deal, but I'm not interested in Strome for NSH.


read my last comment ^
19 juin 2020 à 18 h 26
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Well theoretically that same logic would apply to any acquisition in the next two years, if the term on the player is 2 years or more, for any team.
If this deal happened, Rangers would have to protect:
Mika
Panarin
CK20
Chytil
Buch
Tony
Lindgren
- and then one of Johansen, Lemieux, or Gauthier.

So wed lose one for certain, which is a bummer no matter what....

Now what if it were Trouba for Johansen 1 for 1...Does it make more sense to do that and look for a different partner to trade Strome with


You can protect either 7F and 3D or 8 skaters without positions to concern. If this trade did go through, NYR shouldn't have any problems to protect Zibanejad, Panarin, Kreider, Johansen, Chytil, Buchnevich and one of Strome/Andersson/Lemieux/Howden, with DeAngelo, Lindgren and Hajek as their Ds.

Their situation is arguably much better than Preds, no matter whether Strome is included or not. Preds would still have too many Ds to protect with little room to maneuver with.
19 juin 2020 à 18 h 32
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You can protect either 7F and 3D or 8 skaters without positions to concern. If this trade did go through, NYR shouldn't have any problems to protect Zibanejad, Panarin, Kreider, Johansen, Chytil, Buchnevich and one of Strome/Andersson/Lemieux/Howden, with DeAngelo, Lindgren and Hajek as their Ds.

Their situation is arguably much better than Preds, no matter whether Strome is included or not. Preds would still have too many Ds to protect with little room to maneuver with.


fair. so sounds like drop the strome and picks and we have something
19 juin 2020 à 18 h 35
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fair. so sounds like drop the strome and picks and we have something


If I had to guess, I think NSH would rather keep Johansen than take Trouba. Just because it would give the more room to maneuver with for the ED.
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