Pietrangelo AND Hall

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Créé par: Richard88

Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado

Date de création initiale: 15 juin 2020

Publié: 15 juin 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Exerpt from an article in The Athletic today titled "What a flat salary cap is going to mean for the NHL’s free agent market":

"The most squishable class of player is the unrestricted free agent, and this offseason it’s going to be squished.

The 36 percent drop in available money is going to be disproportionately directed at the UFA class. The exact amount remains to be seen, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if a 50 percent discount relative to previous market rates is the standard."

https://theathletic.co.uk/1860985/2020/06/10/what-a-flat-salary-cap-is-going-to-mean-for-the-nhls-free-agent-market/

The first comment at the end of the article hits the nail right on the head:
"This seems like a great opportunity for a smart team with cap space to sign elite players at non-elite prices."...

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Burakovsky, André	4	4 500 000 $
O'Connor, Logan	1	925 000 $
Nichushkin, Valeri	1	1 750 000 $
Graves, Ryan	1	1 800 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Pietrangelo, Alex	3	8 000 000 $
Hall, Taylor	1	7 000 000 $
Merrill, Jon	1	750 000 $

Transactions

COL

Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (NJD)

NJD

Cole, Ian

COL

Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (FLA)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (COL)

FLA

Zadorov, Nikita [Droits de RFA]

COL

Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (DAL)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (OTT)

OTT

Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]

COL

Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (MIN)

MIN

Kamenev, Vladislav [Droits de RFA]

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	81 368 095 $	0 $	5 425 000 $	131 905 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Landeskog, Gabriel 5 571 429 $5 571 429 $ AG, C M-NTC UFA - 1	MacKinnon, Nathan 6 300 000 $6 300 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 3	Rantanen, Mikko 9 250 000 $9 250 000 $ AD, C UFA - 5
Hall, Taylor 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Kadri, Nazem 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Burakovsky, André 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Nichushkin, Valeri 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Compher, J.T. 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ C, AD UFA - 3	Donskoi, Joonas 3 900 000 $3 900 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Calvert, Matt 2 850 000 $2 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Kaut, Martin 863 333 $863 333 $ (425 000 $$425K) AD RFA - 3

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Girard, Samuel 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 7	Pietrangelo, Alex 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ DD UFA - 7	Grubauer, Philipp 3 333 333 $3 333 333 $ G UFA - 1
Graves, Ryan 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ DG UFA - 3	Makar, Cale 880 833 $880 833 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) DD UFA - 1	Francouz, Pavel 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
Byram, Bowen 894 167 $894 167 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) DG/DD RFA - 3	Johnson, Erik 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
O'Connor, Logan 925 000 $925 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2		Bowers, Shane 925 000 $925 000 $ (150 000 $$150K) C RFA - 2
Merrill, Jon 750 000 $750 000 $ DG UFA - 1		Timmins, Conor 925 000 $925 000 $ DD RFA - 1
		Werner, Adam 842 500 $842 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) G UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
MacKinnon, N.		Landeskog, G.		Rantanen, M.
	Hall, T.		Makar, C.

Avantage numérique 2
Kaut, M.		Kadri, N.		Burakovsky, A.
	Byram, B.		Pietrangelo, A.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Compher, J.	Donskoi, J.
	Graves, R.	Johnson, E.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Bellemare, P.	Calvert, M.
	Girard, S.	Pietrangelo, A.

15 juin 2020 à 20 h 11

bunzy1034

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You guys would start to turn into the golden state warriors of the NHL if this all happened lmao

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15 juin 2020 à 20 h 14

Pulju13

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if they add petro they are the goat team

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15 juin 2020 à 20 h 18

zyyyp

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NJ doesn't want Cole

15 juin 2020 à 20 h 19

Richard88

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Quoting: zyyyp

NJ doesn't want Cole

Ok that trade could be to anyone really. Whoever wants him for a reasonable pick.

15 juin 2020 à 20 h 38

mnwild1790

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But do this and you lose Landy the following year. You need to pay Makar and Landy in the 2021 offseason and you can only pay 1 then. IMO, pay Pietro only, save the money from Hall and use it to keep both Landy and Makar the following year.

15 juin 2020 à 20 h 40

bgainesdm

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Quoting: mnwild1790

Besides, if they get Hall, they'll have better luck getting a no. 1 overall pick than winning a cup.

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15 juin 2020 à 20 h 42

mnwild1790

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Quoting: bgainesdm

Besides, if they get Hall, they'll have better luck getting a no. 1 overall pick than winning a cup.

Lol you win best joke on CapFriendly, that got me

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15 juin 2020 à 20 h 48

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Get real Hall and Pietrangelo aren't taking discounts to play in Colorado, Try more like 7 x $9m for Taylor Hall and 7 x $9.5m for Alex Pietrangelo at minimal.

15 juin 2020 à 21 h 4

ngikas

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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58

Get real Hall and Pietrangelo aren't taking discounts to play in Colorado, Try more like 7 x $9m for Taylor Hall and 7 x $9.5m for Alex Pietrangelo at minimal.

I get what you’re saying for Pietrangelo b/c I don’t see him going $8x3. but IF Taylor hall really wants to win a cup next season could be his best chance at it. If he signs a 1 year deal with a legit contending team at a great discount he will 1. Likely put up numbers closer to his MVP season and 2. In result get that big long term contract. Idk many contending teams out there that will be able to manage hall with a big long term contract with the flat cap. Like I said it’s all about what hall really wants. If he wants to win I think this scenario is completely realistic but if he’s just chasing his bag then yeah he will likely get what you said with some mediocre, middle of the pack team and likely miss the playoffs for the next 3-4 seasons.

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15 juin 2020 à 21 h 7

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ngikas

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Quoting: mnwild1790

Hall is a rental signing in this ACGM. He would be off the books come time to sign Landy and Makar. Idk if it’s even possible with Pietrangelo on the books though.

15 juin 2020 à 22 h 11

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mnwild1790

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Quoting: ngikas

Hall is a rental signing in this ACGM. He would be off the books come time to sign Landy and Makar. Idk if it’s even possible with Pietrangelo on the books though.

Oh my bad, I was scrolling quickly and thought I say 3 years for both Pietro and Hall.

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16 juin 2020 à 3 h 28

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Richard88

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Quoting: mnwild1790

I think you missed the fact that Hall only gets signed to a 1 year deal here. His $7m comes off the books in 2021 and all of it can go to Makar. Calvert will get replaced by Bowers (ELC), saving enough to give Landeskog a raise. And then one of Donskoi or Compher will likely get selected by Seattle and be replaced by Newhook (ELC) which saves enough for other contracts.

16 juin 2020 à 3 h 36

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Richard88

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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58

Get real Hall and Pietrangelo aren't taking discounts to play in Colorado, Try more like 7 x $9m for Taylor Hall and 7 x $9.5m for Alex Pietrangelo at minimal.

If you read the description the premise of this AGM is that many UFA's may be forced to take up to 50% paycuts this offseason due to the flat cap. Whilst I don't think the top UFA's will be as heavily effected, it's possible that GM's/owners are keen to hand out huge contracts this offseason. And some players might prefer to take short-term deals to wait until the cap rises again before cashing in.

A short term deal might be particularly attractive for Hall, as he could boost his value a lot ahead of a long-term contract by having another 90 point season on a contender while having a good playoff season for the first time.

Stranger things have also happened, such as Kariya and Selanne signing in Colorado for a combined $7m to win a cup.

16 juin 2020 à 3 h 40

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Richard88

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Quoting: ngikas

Offers of $10m+ x 7 years from attractive teams might not be forthcoming this offseason due to owners being reluctant to invest so much financially in this economic climate. So Pietrangelo might be willing to take a short-term deal with a contender where he can maximise his chance at the cup while waiting for the cap to rise again before cashing in.

In theory he should take the longest term possible, but the flat cap might create situations and opportunities that usually aren't there in UFA, so it's not outside the realm of possibility.

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16 juin 2020 à 9 h 24

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Quoting: Richard88

I agree. Could easily seeing one or both of these guys signing with a team for 1-3 years on a cheaper deal with a shot to win the cup and then cash in when cap rises again with new US TV deal and revenues flowing again in a few years

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16 juin 2020 à 10 h 4

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Quoting: Richard88

Yep, ngikas pointed my mistake out to me already. That's what I get for skimming over the finer details of this proposal! You're 100% right, and it's a good plan for the Avs

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