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Créé par: RoiArthur
Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 26 mai 2020
Publié: 13 juin 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
35 500 000 $
1850 000 $
3800 000 $
2925 000 $
31 500 000 $
31 500 000 $
2900 000 $
2800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
14 500 000 $
34 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Caufield, Cole
3925 000 $
Romanov, Alexander
3925 000 $
Transactions
COL
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Kulak, Brett
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (STL)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (STL)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2384 000 000 $80 525 475 $0 $1 295 000 $3 474 525 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 2
Caufield, Cole
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
771 666 $771 666 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
DD
RFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Romanov, Alexander
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Avantage numérique 2
Caufield, C.
Infériorité numérique 1
 
 
Infériorité numérique 2
 
 

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13 juin 2020 à 20 h 17
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Best In The World
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Colorado decline, not even close.
13 juin 2020 à 20 h 17
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That might get the avs to hang up faster than the speed of light
13 juin 2020 à 20 h 21
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ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Girard is more valuable to Colorado right now than Byram.

He's only 21 and is a already a No.2 Dman, and our top shutdown guy (don't let his size fool you).

Moreover, his $5m x 7 year contract hasn't even started and is already looking like one of the best contracts in the league, meaning that his value is extremely high.

Needless to say that package of garbage doesn't even come close.
13 juin 2020 à 20 h 21
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And then leaving Romanov as a scratch, would love to see habs ruin another player's development
13 juin 2020 à 20 h 22
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If you want to start a legitimate conversation based around fair value try an offer with Romanov + Caufield. But even then Colorado very likely passes, as they are contenders and not looking to rebuild.
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13 juin 2020 à 20 h 27
#6
Brad Boyes please Wq
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Quoting: Richard88
If you want to start a legitimate conversation based around fair value try an offer with Romanov + Caufield. But even then Colorado very likely passes, as they are contenders and not looking to rebuild.


Umm. The starting point would be with one of them, not both
13 juin 2020 à 20 h 27
#7
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And then leaving Romanov as a scratch, would love to see habs ruin another player's development


perhaps you're not familiar of the myth of victor mete.
13 juin 2020 à 20 h 33
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If the Kings' pick dropped to number 6 overall, we'd offer it plus Mike Anderson.
13 juin 2020 à 20 h 38
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Umm. The starting point would be with one of them, not both


You're probably right. But neither of them has played a single NHL game. The plus on either of them would need to be fairly substantial.
13 juin 2020 à 20 h 50
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Quoting: Richard88
ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Girard is more valuable to Colorado right now than Byram.

He's only 21 and is a already a No.2 Dman, and our top shutdown guy (don't let his size fool you).

Moreover, his $5m x 7 year contract hasn't even started and is already looking like one of the best contracts in the league, meaning that his value is extremely high.

Needless to say that package of garbage doesn't even come close.


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13 juin 2020 à 21 h 3
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Oooooooof
13 juin 2020 à 21 h 8
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Hahaha this is embarrassing
13 juin 2020 à 21 h 15
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Girard

Fleury Struble 2nd 2021 & 2nd 2022
13 juin 2020 à 21 h 25
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Plz tell me this is a troll post lol
13 juin 2020 à 21 h 26
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Equivalent counter proposal:

Romanov

for

Ian Cole
Calvert
2021 2nd round pick (COL)
2022 2nd round pick (COL)
2020 3rd round pick (TOR)
2020 4th round pick (COL)
13 juin 2020 à 21 h 35
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Quoting: mr_z
Girard

Fleury Struble 2nd 2021 & 2nd 2022


Congrats for making the 2nd most embarrassing girard trade on this site tonight
13 juin 2020 à 21 h 48
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Hey thanks!

Congrats to you on successfully being an anonymous c@ck$ucker.


Avs are not selling off a young top flight dman signed to already a steal of a deal for futures

Explain how a cup contender and one of top team in the leagues trading a core player for a lackluster futures package is a good trade

The floor is yours
13 juin 2020 à 22 h 1
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The floor isn't mine. Next time, feel free to just say the obvious first, instead of condescending passive aggressive bull$hit.

Enjoy your career as an NHL GM or jargon regurgitating blogger.

Twat.


You didn’t like the Criticism so Now you’re throwing a temper
Tantrum online with your response and resulting in insults and name calling

You’re a Sensitive one

Also when everyone is criticizing the OP trades with the same logic I just mentioned to you and all you do is just post the same trade structure that is behind Ripped on, what did you think would Happen . Read the room
13 juin 2020 à 22 h 13
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Easy no for COL
14 juin 2020 à 0 h 12
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Quoting: Richard88
If you want to start a legitimate conversation based around fair value try an offer with Romanov + Caufield. But even then Colorado very likely passes, as they are contenders and not looking to rebuild.


The Avs are looking good on left side D even without Girard. If i was Sakic i would take that deal and additional capspace.
14 juin 2020 à 16 h 15
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The Avs are looking good on left side D even without Girard. If i was Sakic i would take that deal and additional capspace.


Let's wait for Byram to actually play an NHL game before making such claims...
14 juin 2020 à 22 h 0
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Quoting: Richard88
Let's wait for Byram to actually play an NHL game before making such claims...


I like Graves and Zadorov on the left side. Assuming Byram at worst becomes a serviceable NHL defense-men, the left side is more than competent. The trade adds Romanov. Id say its a fair bet given there projected potential at least one of the two (Byram and Romanov) become a solid top 4 defenseman at worst.
14 juin 2020 à 22 h 4
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I like Graves and Zadorov on the left side. Assuming Byram at worst becomes a serviceable NHL defense-men the left side is more than competent.


If we trade Girard and Byram doesn't become a top 4 LHD then we would lack a 1 LHD and arguably a 2 LHD as well depending on how high you value Graves. Graves is top 4 quality, but he's more of a complimentary Dman rather than someone who anchors his own pair.

After spending over a decade trying to build a solid D it would be insane to give that up now.
14 juin 2020 à 22 h 24
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If we trade Girard and Byram doesn't become a top 4 LHD then we would lack a 1 LHD and arguably a 2 LHD as well depending on how high you value Graves. Graves is top 4 quality, but he's more of a complimentary Dman rather than someone who anchors his own pair.

After spending over a decade trying to build a solid D it would be insane to give that up now.


If you didn't have a bona fide number 1 D in Makar i would tend to agree with this assessment. I know its not good to count your chickens before they hatch but adding Romanov to the mix along with Byram i would be confident in the left side. Honestly if you had Zadorov, Graves, Byram and Romanov i would be worried about not having enough ice-time to go around for all of them and having to make a trade. Adding Caulfield and the addtional capspace for a few years that acquiring two players who will be on entry level deals for another 3 years will grant seems worth it. As long as the cap-space is used intelligently. i wouldn't say declining the trade and sticking with Girard would be a huge blunder or anything. It would be more than fine sticking with Girard, but i think it wouldn't be unreasonable to Sakic to accept the trade.
 
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