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Créé par: ngikas

Équipe: 2020-21 Bruins de Boston

Date de création initiale: 10 juin 2020

Publié: 11 juin 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Eichel trade: Buffalo gets a cornerstone RHD franchise dman, a winger in Bjork whose shown glimpses of what his potential is, a RW who hasn't thrived but has looked solid in his NHL appearances (top 9). And then a 1st and 3rd round pick. Boston gets their next center to build around once Bergy is gone, but they downgrade at the RHD position. Value wise I think its pretty even. I dont know if its quality enough for Buffalo to accept. I think they sit and think about it if an offer like this came across their table.

Krejci trade: Moved to any team you can move him to. I dont know what his value is but I just took the Tatar TDL deal as a comparison. I made one pick a 3rd due to the fact of Krejci's age and contract. Maybe 2 2nds or a 2nd and a 3rd makes more sense.

John Moore trade: In this scenario John Moore is a complete total cap dump.

I have no idea how close I am to making this blockbuster deal. I want to say its close even value. I took the word from comments in other threads about Bjork being involved in the trade, so I made sure I had him. A 1st round pick is a given in any Eichel scenario. Added in a what is a true hit or miss prospect in Senyshyn and a 3rd round pick (both small sweeteners). And added a significant piece in McAvoy. Which I saw was most likely a starting point in any deal involving a Eichel to Boston trade for BUF fans on here.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Bjork, Anders	2	1 300 000 $
DeBrusk, Jake	4	4 000 000 $
Grzelcyk, Matt	2	3 000 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Chara, Zdeno		1	1 450 000 $
Krug, Torey		6	7 000 000 $

Transactions

BOS

Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (MTL)

Détails additionnels:

ANY TEAM

MTL

Krejci, David

Détails additionnels:

I went with a Tatar like deal when he got moved to VGK at the TDL

BOS

BUF

Bjork, Anders
McAvoy, Charlie
Senyshyn, Zach [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BOS)

BOS

Future Considerations

SJS

Moore, John

Détails additionnels:

ANY TEAM

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

David Backes: 1 500 000 $ (25%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	82 248 981 $	964 222 $	1 657 500 $	-748 981 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Marchand, Brad 6 125 000 $6 125 000 $ AG NMC UFA - 5	Eichel, Jack 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ C UFA - 6	Pastrnak, David 6 666 667 $6 666 667 $ AD UFA - 3
DeBrusk, Jake 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Bergeron, Patrice 6 875 000 $6 875 000 $ C M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Kase, Ondrej 2 600 000 $2 600 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Ritchie, Nick 1 498 925 $1 498 925 $ AG UFA - 1	Coyle, Charlie 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6	Studnicka, Jack 769 167 $769 167 $ (107 500 $$108K) AD, C RFA - 2
Kuraly, Sean 1 275 000 $1 275 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Frederic, Trent 925 000 $925 000 $ (300 000 $$300K) AG, AD UFA - 1	Wagner, Chris 1 350 000 $1 350 000 $ AD, C UFA - 3

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Krug, Torey 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ DG UFA - 7	Carlo, Brandon 2 850 000 $2 850 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Rask, Tuukka 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Chara, Zdeno 1 450 000 $1 450 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Ristolainen, Rasmus 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Halák, Jaroslav 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ (1 250 000 $$1M) G UFA - 1
	Lauzon, Jérémy 850 000 $850 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2
Grzelcyk, Matt 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG UFA - 4

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Clifton, Connor 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD UFA - 3
Lindholm, Pär 850 000 $850 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1
Kampfer, Steven 800 000 $800 000 $ DD UFA - 1

11 juin 2020 à 2 h 35

Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

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All these trades get rejected.

The 2nds from Montreal are both in the top 40 picks...and Krejci is basically a cap dump in this scenario.

Buffalo has no need for RHD. If they wanted a RHD it would be a defensive one like Carlo.

Boston's gonna have to pay to move Moore.

11 juin 2020 à 2 h 51

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You wont get that for GreyCheese

11 juin 2020 à 3 h 51

mhockey91

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McAvoy is excellent but still not nearly enough for Buffalo to move Eichal. Even if you removed Risto from the trade they still say no. It will be a late first round pick, and Bjork/ Senyshyn dont have much value. McAvoy and a late first isn't enough to get eichal

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11 juin 2020 à 5 h 33

gregb569

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A deal involving Eichel will most likely start at Pastrnak.. and Boston isn't willing to do that..

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11 juin 2020 à 6 h 33

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Modifié 11 juin 2020 à 9 h 58

Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Krejci is a cap dump? He just put up 73pts last season and his last 3 years he has a p/gp that put puts his around a 65pt center. How is that a cap dump?

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11 juin 2020 à 7 h 49

SalamiCheese

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No thx from Buffalo

11 juin 2020 à 8 h 31

clapperzzz11

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Start you package with Studnicka, Frederic, Debrusk and 1st + 2nd... Something like that can be interesting for buffalo

11 juin 2020 à 9 h 11

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Nobody is taking that Krejci contract, And that's not even close to getting you Jack Eichel. All trades are easily rejected.

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11 juin 2020 à 9 h 23

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Krejci is too old to build around but hes hardly a cap dump. Hes more like that last piece of the puzzle vet a team might need.

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11 juin 2020 à 9 h 59

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Quoting: clapperzzz11

Start you package with Studnicka, Frederic, Debrusk and 1st + 2nd... Something like that can be interesting for buffalo

Doesnt this fall in line with quantity not quality? McAvoy is clearly a much more significant piece than all 3 of those players. I thought about putting in Beecher over Senyshyn. Frederic and Senyshyn are both around the same spot value wise.

11 juin 2020 à 10 h 1

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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58

Nobody is taking that Krejci contract, And that's not even close to getting you Jack Eichel. All trades are easily rejected.

That Krejci contract really isnt that bad, and as a rental two 2nds or a 2nd and a 3rd is a fair price for what he is as I suggested as what is maybe a better offer in my description.

11 juin 2020 à 10 h 2

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Quoting: ngikas

Yes, but Buffalo are all ready in good position on the right side with Risto, Montour and Miller. If i'm a bruins fans, i'd probably want Something like I mention over McAvoy. I know he's a really good defensmen, but with players allready in the system for BUF i wouldn't go for McAvoy

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11 juin 2020 à 10 h 4

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Quoting: mhockey91

I really thought I was onto something. I've seen some of the Bruins offers on here and how its been more quantity over quality and thought this would be somewhere closer in the realistic ball park.

11 juin 2020 à 10 h 19

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Mcavoy is a stud dman. Potential Norris candidate for many years to come. Dahlin-Mcavoy pairing would be the best in the league for a decade + .

The trade is fair imo.

11 juin 2020 à 11 h 11

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Quoting: kscoop

Mcavoy is a stud dman. Potential Norris candidate for many years to come. Dahlin-Mcavoy pairing would be the best in the league for a decade + .

The trade is fair imo.

Quoting: ngikas

I really thought I was onto something. I've seen some of the Bruins offers on here and how its been more quantity over quality and thought this would be somewhere closer in the realistic ball park.

The difference is McAcoy is a potential top D in the league Vs Eichal who already is a top Centre in the NHL.

11 juin 2020 à 11 h 38

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Quoting: mhockey91

The difference is McAcoy is a potential top D in the league Vs Eichal who already is a top Centre in the NHL.

I think you can make a significant argument that mcavoy is already there.

11 juin 2020 à 11 h 38

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Wild take here.
1. That’s not enough to get eichel.
2. I would be really disappointed if the bruins did this.

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11 juin 2020 à 12 h 1

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Quoting: Jfstompers

Krejci is too old to build around but hes hardly a cap dump. Hes more like that last piece of the puzzle vet a team might need.

Quoting: ON3M4N

Krejci is a cap dump? He just put up 73pts last season and his last 3 years he has a p/gp that put puts his around a 65pt center. How is that a cap dump?

He would be a cap dump if Boston got EIchel. There's no way they could afford him. That brings down his trade down value significantly. Just like the Tampa RFAs.

I agree he would have value but not as much value as is posted here. Especially if most teams are in a cap crunch. I don't see him returning more than a 2nd.

11 juin 2020 à 12 h 8

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Quoting: Bcarlo25

I think you can make a significant argument that mcavoy is already there.

I can think probably think of 20 D who are better than McAvoy atm. I can’t think of 20 Centres who are better than Eichal. Not a knock on McAvoy. He’s only 22 years old and he’ll probably get there. I’m just saying Eichal already is at that elite level. And a centre is more valuable

11 juin 2020 à 12 h 23

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unpopular opinion: If moving McAvoy means getting Eichel, then I wouldn't want the Bruins to do it. Finding another McAvoy is very hard...he has been consistently shutting down first lines since he entered the league

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11 juin 2020 à 12 h 38

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Bruins laugh at that offer. Terrible

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11 juin 2020 à 12 h 38

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

No no and no.

Bruins reject the buffalo deal.

and Moore isnt a cap dump. Stop trying to tell people he is. Like really what is wrong with you

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11 juin 2020 à 12 h 39

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Quoting: mhockey91

Last 3 years at 5v5 among all d-men with 1,000 minutes

SA/60 - 7th
GA/60 - 34th (slightly better than Hedman)
SCA/60 - 16th (slightly better than Suter & Gio)
HDCA/60 - 36th (slightly better than Klingberg & Hedman)
HDGA/60 - 46th (tied w/ Gio)

This is while being his first 3 years in the league (still only 22yr old) and playing with a d-partner that might be one of the slowest skaters in the league and is 40+ years old. McAvoy gets overlooked a bit because he doesn't put up offensive numbers, but he also doesn't see much PP time because of Krug. At 5v5 though, McAvoy over the last 3 years is T-18th in points along with Ellis/Slavin and T-10th in assist with Barrie.

Now I'm not going to debate where he ranks because honestly its subjective. At the end of the day though, over the last 3 seasons McAvoy has been a legit #1 d-man and one of the better d-men in the NHL.

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11 juin 2020 à 13 h 46

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Quoting: Silkysmooth42

No no and no.

Bruins reject the buffalo deal.

and Moore isnt a cap dump. Stop trying to tell people he is. Like really what is wrong with you

LOL. Bruins reject the Buffalo deal. HAHAHAHA

11 juin 2020 à 13 h 54

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Quoting: ON3M4N

I'm not gonna list him playing next to chara as a negative, dude might not be fast but hes an above average dman

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