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Créé par: Hockyluv21
Équipe: 2020-21 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 7 juin 2020
Publié: 7 juin 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I love Danault, and I think that he would be a fantastic Cane.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
62 100 000 $
52 580 000 $
1700 000 $
Transactions
CAR
  1. Danault, Phillip
  2. Kulak, Brett
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
Danault is extended by the Canes for 5 years, $5.7M AAV.
MTL
  1. Geekie, Morgan
  2. Skjei, Brady
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 463 155 $1 367 073 $3 687 500 $2 036 845 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 4
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
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3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 2
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 580 000 $2 580 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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737 500 $737 500 $
G
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2

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7 juin 2020 à 23 h 5
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No way Habs accept
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7 juin 2020 à 23 h 7
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I think that's a fair trade but Danault isn't leaving Montreal, think he'll be signing a long term extension before his current deal expires.
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7 juin 2020 à 23 h 9
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I don’t see MTL doing that.
7 juin 2020 à 23 h 11
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I think that's a fair trade but Danault isn't leaving Montreal, think he'll be signing a long term extension before his current deal expires.


I just wonder about how Montreal is pretty loaded down the middle with young centers. You have Domi, Suzuki, Kotkaniemi, and Poehling, all in their early-mid 20s and with the potential for more than they've shown. I just wonder if a good package from a contender w/ an extension could convince Bergevin to part with Danault. If the Habs' FO is going to be honest with themselves, I don't think that the Habs are a legitimate contender quite yet.
7 juin 2020 à 23 h 23
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I don’t see MTL doing that.


Honestly, I think that it depends on whether MTL falls flat on its face before next year's trade deadline. I don't really see what I just wrote down as an offseason deal, but rather a deadline one.
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7 juin 2020 à 23 h 24
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I just wonder about how Montreal is pretty loaded down the middle with young centers. You have Domi, Suzuki, Kotkaniemi, and Poehling, all in their early-mid 20s and with the potential for more than they've shown. I just wonder if a good package from a contender w/ an extension could convince Bergevin to part with Danault. If the Habs' FO is going to be honest with themselves, I don't think that the Habs are a legitimate contender quite yet.


No doubt and I don't disagree but Danault is a local, as dumb as it sounds that really does matter in Montreal, I think they'd trade Domi before Danault if it came down to the two.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
No doubt and I don't disagree but Danault is a local, as dumb as it sounds that really does matter in Montreal, I think they'd trade Domi before Danault if it came down to the two.


Montreal doesn't need local talent in order to build a powerhouse contender. It's nice to have, but it isn't necessary. Detroit's 25-year playoff streak was built on the backs of major draft steals from Sweden and Russia, not local Michiganders. The same should probably be the case in Montreal. I think that Domi's worth more as an asset long-term, and if you trade him now, you're IMO selling low. I'd rather have Domi myself, but I see him as essentially an untouchable player for them. Then again, though, I thought the same thing with prime PK Subban, so maybe I'm wrong. Honestly, if Montreal really cared to be a French-Canadian recruiting powerhouse, they probably should be paying the moon for Tampa's QMJHL scouts. They seem to do a phenomenal job with finding the talent there (Gourde, Paquette, Barre-Boulet, Killorn, Joseph).
8 juin 2020 à 0 h 11
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Montreal doesn't need local talent in order to build a powerhouse contender. It's nice to have, but it isn't necessary. Detroit's 25-year playoff streak was built on the backs of major draft steals from Sweden and Russia, not local Michiganders. The same should probably be the case in Montreal. I think that Domi's worth more as an asset long-term, and if you trade him now, you're IMO selling low. I'd rather have Domi myself, but I see him as essentially an untouchable player for them. Then again, though, I thought the same thing with prime PK Subban, so maybe I'm wrong. Honestly, if Montreal really cared to be a French-Canadian recruiting powerhouse, they probably should be paying the moon for Tampa's QMJHL scouts. They seem to do a phenomenal job with finding the talent there (Gourde, Paquette, Barre-Boulet, Killorn, Joseph).


Don't tell me tell Bergevin.. Lol

Don't disagree just think Danault is a guy they see as a long term core guy, I'm not in the Montreal market so it's just my opinion, who knows maybe they will deal him, I really think they should move Tatar and especially Petry, really don't see how either guy fits in with where the Habs hope to be in the next few years.
8 juin 2020 à 0 h 55
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Don't tell me tell Bergevin.. Lol

Don't disagree just think Danault is a guy they see as a long term core guy, I'm not in the Montreal market so it's just my opinion, who knows maybe they will deal him, I really think they should move Tatar and especially Petry, really don't see how either guy fits in with where the Habs hope to be in the next few years.


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Montreal doesn't need local talent in order to build a powerhouse contender. It's nice to have, but it isn't necessary. Detroit's 25-year playoff streak was built on the backs of major draft steals from Sweden and Russia, not local Michiganders. The same should probably be the case in Montreal. I think that Domi's worth more as an asset long-term, and if you trade him now, you're IMO selling low. I'd rather have Domi myself, but I see him as essentially an untouchable player for them. Then again, though, I thought the same thing with prime PK Subban, so maybe I'm wrong. Honestly, if Montreal really cared to be a French-Canadian recruiting powerhouse, they probably should be paying the moon for Tampa's QMJHL scouts. They seem to do a phenomenal job with finding the talent there (Gourde, Paquette, Barre-Boulet, Killorn, Joseph).


The Habs aren’t a normal team. Here u need a French coach and mainly a French gm. U also need French talent. Bergevin isn’t the problem (for French talent) it’s the nutty French fans.
As for the trade I can’t see this happening for two reasons.
One, unless something crazy happens I can’t see them letting danault leave(even though it’s the right move.)
And two this deal makes zero sense for the Habs. Brady is nice but he’s 26. If the Habs move danault(along with Tatar and maybe petry) it’s because they’ve embraced the youth. Not saying this would be the trade but danault for bean and a first( obviously provided that danault extends) if that’s too much then a bean and a second or something along those lines
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8 juin 2020 à 1 h 27
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The Habs aren’t a normal team. Here u need a French coach and mainly a French gm. U also need French talent. Bergevin isn’t the problem (for French talent) it’s the nutty French fans.
As for the trade I can’t see this happening for two reasons.
One, unless something crazy happens I can’t see them letting danault leave(even though it’s the right move.)
And two this deal makes zero sense for the Habs. Brady is nice but he’s 26. If the Habs move danault(along with Tatar and maybe petry) it’s because they’ve embraced the youth. Not saying this would be the trade but danault for bean and a first( obviously provided that danault extends) if that’s too much then a bean and a second or something along those lines


It's about trading a major strength for a major weakness. The Habs lack a true difference maker on the left side of their defense. Mete can be very good and Romanov has the potential to be a difference maker, but beyond that, there's not that much to look forward to in the present-term. Skjei is 26, is locked up at a decent cap hit until his age 29 season, and has the offensive chops to play with Weber long-term.
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It's about trading a major strength for a major weakness. The Habs lack a true difference maker on the left side of their defense. Mete can be very good and Romanov has the potential to be a difference maker, but beyond that, there's not that much to look forward to in the present-term. Skjei is 26, is locked up at a decent cap hit until his age 29 season, and has the offensive chops to play with Weber long-term.


Sure, but as I stated if we trade danault it’s a rebuild and a commitment to youth. Obviously 26 isn’t old but he isn’t in the age group of kk,Suzuki, Romanov and pick 8. Skjei is nice but isn’t strong enough for us to even consider trading for him. It’s a prospect like bean and a pick and nothing else.
Do u think that’s too much?
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Sure, but as I stated if we trade danault it’s a rebuild and a commitment to youth. Obviously 26 isn’t old but he isn’t in the age group of kk,Suzuki, Romanov and pick 8. Skjei is nice but isn’t strong enough for us to even consider trading for him. It’s a prospect like bean and a pick and nothing else.
Do u think that’s too much?


No, I think that's fair. I want to see how Bean looks this coming season, though, before putting him on the trade block for a top-6 centerman like Danault. Carolina historically likes to do these win-now for win-now package trades, so I wouldn't be surprised if a deal for a top-6 center does involve one of Skjei/Gardiner and not Fleury/Bean.
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8 juin 2020 à 7 h 28
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This would be nice from a Canes perspective, but the lines are horrible. Splitting up the SAT line is just a no, especially taking the only one who plays defence off that line. Trocheck on the wing is also a no, he'd much more likely be the 3C, push Jordan to 4C and move Marty to the wing.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
No doubt and I don't disagree but Danault is a local, as dumb as it sounds that really does matter in Montreal, I think they'd trade Domi before Danault if it came down to the two.


Of course we’d trade Domi before Danault, because Danault is way better and more important to this team.
8 juin 2020 à 10 h 47
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This would be nice from a Canes perspective, but the lines are horrible. Splitting up the SAT line is just a no, especially taking the only one who plays defence off that line. Trocheck on the wing is also a no, he'd much more likely be the 3C, push Jordan to 4C and move Marty to the wing.


Staal is the ideal 3C, though, so I think that Trocheck moves to the wing in light of a Danault acquisition. Maybe not on Aho's line but rather on Danault's. Also, Aho's no slouch defensively.
8 juin 2020 à 11 h 14
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Staal is the ideal 3C, though, so I think that Trocheck moves to the wing in light of a Danault acquisition. Maybe not on Aho's line but rather on Danault's. Also, Aho's no slouch defensively.


Aho's not good defensively. His xGA is disastrous. Trocheck I doubt comes out of the middle. He'd be the only RH centre on the roster. Why take him out? Staal or Marty would move over.
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Aho's not good defensively. His xGA is disastrous. Trocheck I doubt comes out of the middle. He'd be the only RH centre on the roster. Why take him out? Staal or Marty would move over.


Aho's been good defensively this year. Historically, yes, he's wasn't, however, in 2020 his xGA was 33, which is solid when you also consider that he had an xGF of 44.
 
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