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PART 1- 2019-2020 PITTSBURGH PENS - Voiding AND Fixing the Deadline Trades

Créé par: Sidstick87
Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 30 mai 2020
Publié: 6 juin 2020
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I hope, I'm wrong and Hope that - Sheary / Marleau do great in Playoffs & we win Cup w/ them or even bc of them & they prove me wrong BUT....
I would have NOT traded for those 2 players & still don't like those deals.

*** PART 1 - VOIDING THE [2 - TRADES] w/ BUFFALO & SAN JOSE & MAKING NEW [BETTER] TRADES w/ WPG - ANA - BUF - INSTEAD bf 19'-20' TRADE DEADLINE ***

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Pre-DEADLINE - TRADES -

WINNIPEG JETS TRADE :
~ Only reason this could have happened was bc the Jets were looking for a #2 able Center to replace B. Little & by trading for BJUGSTAD (if he stayed healthy) could have offered more offense than Lowry.
* LOWRY having a down yr but this could have been a buy low type scenario for Pens.
- DeSMITH would have been a better back-up in WPG than Brossiot
- Comrie is a young Goalie that could be a steal?

ANAHEIM DUCKS TRADE :
* I will always wonder why we gave Kahun away in that BUF Trade but IMO - KAHUN had much more value than Sheary / E-Rod.
+ Ducks get a younger player in Kahun, Pens 2nd best Prospect in Legare & a 2nd Rdr in 21'.
~ RAKELL has been a fav of mine for yrs & after 2 avg seasons - Pens could have stolen #67 from ANA & Needed that RH- RWer on Top PP (Kessel Spot) & really could have used another
"Puck-Entry" guy other than Geno on PP too. PLUS - Rakell is a RH - Jake Guentzel w/ the way he thinks the game but w/ a better shot.
- STOLARZ is a better than avg #3 Goalie

DEADLINE DAY TRADE-

BUFFALO SABRES TRADE :
- McCABE is a Penguin type D-man & always thought he would thrive around better players. + makes J.Johnson the #7 this way.
- E-ROD has done good here in short time here.

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Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Kahun, Dominik
Détails additionnels:
** TRADE NEVER HAPPENS **

[Kahun had more value, IMO]
BUF
  1. Sheary, Conor
Détails additionnels:
2. RODRIGUES, Evan
2.
PIT
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
~ Marleau hasn't impressed me at all, I HOPE I'm wrong & #12 breaks out in playoffs but would have gone in different direction.
SJS
  1. Marleau, Patrick
Détails additionnels:
** TRADE NEVER HAPPENS **
3.
PIT
  1. Comrie, Eric
  2. Lowry, Adam
Détails additionnels:
~ LOWRY has had a down yr & is a 3rd - 4th line type Center but the Pens really could have used his size, face-off, & PK ability.
~ COMRIE is a solid young Goalie, could be a steal here?
WPG
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. DeSmith, Casey
Détails additionnels:
~ BJUGSTAD was just getting healthy at deadline & even tho Juggs is a much better player than Lowry .... at least we could of moved him for something we could have used for playoff's.
~ DeSMITH is a good back-up still (even tho in AHL) but w/ Brossoit struggling this yr, DeSmith could be the better back-up.
4.
PIT
  1. Rakell, Rickard
  2. Stolarz, Anthony
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
~ RAKELL has had 2 average seasons but IMO this is what #67 needs to get back to that 34G / 69P mark again & playing w/ #87 or #71 should help too.
- STOLARZ is a solid #3 Goalie w/ NHL time & NHL starts.
ANA
  1. Kahun, Dominik
  2. Légaré, Nathan
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
- KAHUN had much more value than the BUF trade, IMO. + is 3 yrs younger than Rakell & could be nice young piece in ANA for a while w/ their young core.
- LEGARE - a powerful RWer & Pens 2nd best Prospect - (kills me to trade him)
5.
PIT
  1. McCabe, Jake (1 425 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
2. RODRIGUES, Evan (E-Rod)

~ McCABE is a good LHD that has been stuck on a bad team for too long. + Played w/ #4 in Wisconsin for a yr.
~ E-ROD has impressed me the short time in PIT. Very versatile #13 forward.
BUF
  1. Miletic, Sam
  2. Riikola, Juuso
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
* All BUF fans trade McCabe for a 3rd to a 6th Rd Pick.
(Figured - Miletic + a 5th was fair for McCabe + Ret.)

- RIIKOLA is prob a 3rd pairing LHD that can play both sides equally as good, that never got a fair chance in PIT.
- MILETIC - brought to PIT by GMJB and after another good AHL yr, should get NHL time next yr.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2881 500 000 $83 437 681 $132 500 $982 500 $-1 937 681 $

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NMC
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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NTC
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UFA - 2
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AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 425 000 $1 425 000 $
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UFA - 2
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M-NTC
UFA - 1
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G
UFA - 1
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DG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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767 500 $767 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
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UFA - 1
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AD, AG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
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C, AD
UFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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6 juin 2020 à 19 h 53
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I Highly doubt Anaheim does that deal. Their gonna want a future top 4 RH defenseman and a first.
also no point in quoting @Sebybbq because he got banned
6 juin 2020 à 19 h 58
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That doesn't get you Rakell, not even close.
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Yes, Kahun should have gotten more in return... That doesn't mean ANA wants him, again, they're last need is middle 6 forwards (both Kahun and Legare)
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That’s nothing close to Rakell’s worth
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The Rakell deal has to include a 1st from PIT--that's just the price.
BUF wants a bit more but the WPG deal is fine.
I agree--I hope Marleau/Sheary do great and win the cup--and I still hope we don't resign either.
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Old man Marleau as a now 3rd/4th line center or wing gives you a strong 2 way player who still has speed and will provide secondary scoring and give you the ability to place anywhere in the lineup in the playoffs 1st - 4th line he will hold his own.
He’s not the top line stud he was 3/4 years ago but he still has talent and he’s a good insurance for this playoff run! Go win the cup and let old man Marleau get his name on lord Stanley finnaly!
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Old man Marleau as a now 3rd/4th line center or wing gives you a strong 2 way player who still has speed and will provide secondary scoring and give you the ability to place anywhere in the lineup in the playoffs 1st - 4th line he will hold his own.
He’s not the top line stud he was 3/4 years ago but he still has talent and he’s a good insurance for this playoff run! Go win the cup and let old man Marleau get his name on lord Stanley finnaly!


every penguins fan is wondering where all this "speed" is from Marleau .
Maybe on the slow as hell SJS team he looked fast. The same team that had to melt the ice to try to slow the penguins down and still got blown up. But he has looked every bit his age here.
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every penguins fan is wondering where all this "speed" is from Marleau .
Maybe on the slow as hell SJS team he looked fast. The same team that had to melt the ice to try to slow the penguins down and still got blown up. But he has looked every bit his age here.


He doesn’t play full throttle he is a very observant player, he turns on the jets when he needs to I.E. back checking and off man rushes, again he is a shell of the player he was 3-4 years ago but then again 3-4 years ago you’d have paid a top prospect and a first for him! The way he plays drives fans crazy until you see him not on your team then you miss the little things he does every game that make a difference.
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He doesn’t play full throttle he is a very observant player, he turns on the jets when he needs to I.E. back checking and off man rushes, again he is a shell of the player he was 3-4 years ago but then again 3-4 years ago you’d have paid a top prospect and a first for him! The way he plays drives fans crazy until you see him not on your team then you miss the little things he does every game that make a difference.


He doesn’t play full throttle...... Yeah that's an understatement.
No one is going to miss him on this team. No one.
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Too much for Rakell, and zero interest in Stolarz.
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He doesn’t play full throttle...... Yeah that's an understatement.
No one is going to miss him on this team. No one.


Wait for him to score a overtime goal or a series clinching goal in the playoffs there is a reason he’s a fan favorite in San Jose and was in Toronto as well
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Gonna be honest with ya, I’ve had a couple drinks so I’m too lazy to actually look at the trades you made. but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say good job
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That Winnipeg trade is terrible for them. Total rip off.
Why are u adding Erod in trade back to Buffalo.....that’s no where near value for McCabe, especially with rentention

Also they were never making that many moves with the team playing so well at the time
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I Highly doubt Anaheim does that deal. Their gonna want a future top 4 RH defenseman and a first.
also no point in quoting @Sebybbq because he got banned


Got ya, thanks tho
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Yes, Kahun should have gotten more in return... That doesn't mean ANA wants him, again, they're last need is middle 6 forwards (both Kahun and Legare)


Agree with Kahun should have gotten more!!
7 juin 2020 à 10 h 56
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That’s nothing close to Rakell’s worth


I agree... well kind of but he has had 2 - very avg to below avg seasons tho
7 juin 2020 à 10 h 58
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The Rakell deal has to include a 1st from PIT--that's just the price.
BUF wants a bit more but the WPG deal is fine.
I agree--I hope Marleau/Sheary do great and win the cup--and I still hope we don't resign either.


I prob agree about Rakell but he has had 2- very avg seasons so his value his going down
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Too much for Rakell, and zero interest in Stolarz.


Too much for Rakell?? Really, U think? I kno he has had to very avg seasons for him but he still has value, No?
I got Stolarz bc I traded DeSmith & needed a 3rd G
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Wait for him to score a overtime goal or a series clinching goal in the playoffs there is a reason he’s a fan favorite in San Jose and was in Toronto as well


I pray to God u are right about Marleau but he hasn't impressed me at all in his short time here.... His hands have looked way behind his legs & his legs have not looked to great either.
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Gonna be honest with ya, I’ve had a couple drinks so I’m too lazy to actually look at the trades you made. but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say good job


That may be the best reply ever, LMDO

Thanks tho
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Too much for Rakell?? Really, U think? I kno he has had to very avg seasons for him but he still has value, No?
I got Stolarz bc I traded DeSmith & needed a 3rd G


For me, people are overeating Rakell by a good amount, like 50%
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That Winnipeg trade is terrible for them. Total rip off.
Why are u adding Erod in trade back to Buffalo.....that’s no where near value for McCabe, especially with rentention

Also they were never making that many moves with the team playing so well at the time


The WPG trade would have happened when Juggs was healthy & they needed a Center w/ more offense ... If Juggs would have stayed healthy he is a much better player than Lowry (who has been bad this yr)
& Brossoit has been bad as a back-up so Desmith could have helped... I dont get the Rip off of a #2-#3 C/ Top 6 RWer (IF HEALTHY) for a #3-#4 C/ bottom 6 LW ? and a back-up for a guy thats been on waivers 2 times this yr
 
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