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Créé par: Wqrrior
Équipe: 2020-21 Blue Jackets de Columbus
Date de création initiale: 5 juin 2020
Publié: 5 juin 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
47 000 000 $
21 850 000 $
2850 000 $
2950 000 $
1900 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Grigorenko Ice hockey forward, Search Results Web results Mikhail Grigorenko
11 200 000 $
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CBJ
  1. Tuch, Alex
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
VGK
  1. Anderson, Josh [Droits de RFA]
  2. Murray, Ryan (2 300 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (CBJ)
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CBJ
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (NSH)
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4.
CBJ
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (DAL)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $73 941 667 $0 $1 225 000 $7 558 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance375 000 $$375K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 6
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897 500 $897 500 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 1
Grigorenko Ice hockey forward, Search Results Web results Mikhail Grigorenko
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
AG, C, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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2 700 000 $2 700 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
900 000 $900 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
5 850 000 $5 850 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2

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5 juin 2020 à 3 h 48
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Brad Boyes please Wq
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Not wrong
5 juin 2020 à 4 h 31
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Grigorenko Ice hockey forward, Search Results Web results Mikhail Grigorenko is such a great player, will be elite in a few years
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5 juin 2020 à 6 h 18
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Congrats. You have the CapFriendly record of having the player with the longest first name. " Ice hockey forward, Search Results Web results Mikhail"
5 juin 2020 à 9 h 21
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Congrats. You have the CapFriendly record of having the player with the longest first name. " Ice hockey forward, Search Results Web results Mikhail"


and the longest last name "Grigorenko ice hockey forward"
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5 juin 2020 à 12 h 39
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Given the choice between accepting that trade for Savard and picking up Colin Miller for Wennberg to make up the difference, or just buying out Wennberg and keeping Savard, I'll take the latter option 10 times out of 10.

Tuch doesn't really help much as we're already overstrength at RW; having to retain on Murray to make it happen makes that unpalatable.

I have no objection to the Harrington trade, tho.
5 juin 2020 à 14 h 42
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So in what world is a 20 pt $4,000,000 defenseman an even trade for a 20 pt $5,000,000 center?
5 juin 2020 à 17 h 17
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So in what world is a 20 pt $4,000,000 defenseman an even trade for a 20 pt $5,000,000 center?

I find it curious how you manage to use "20" to represent both the number 11 and the number 22 simultaneously. That's an interesting trick.
5 juin 2020 à 17 h 53
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Given the choice between accepting that trade for Savard and picking up Colin Miller for Wennberg to make up the difference, or just buying out Wennberg and keeping Savard, I'll take the latter option 10 times out of 10.

Tuch doesn't really help much as we're already overstrength at RW; having to retain on Murray to make it happen makes that unpalatable.

I have no objection to the Harrington trade, tho.


so you'd rather just savard than miller, a 2nd and a 3rd? Your route is fine if they extend Savard... but if they don't I'd rather the 2nd and 3rd and replacement defenseman over just a buyout
5 juin 2020 à 18 h 30
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I find it curious how you manage to use "20" to represent both the number 11 and the number 22 simultaneously. That's an interesting trick.


Two year average.
5 juin 2020 à 19 h 59
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so you'd rather just savard than miller, a 2nd and a 3rd? Your route is fine if they extend Savard... but if they don't I'd rather the 2nd and 3rd and replacement defenseman over just a buyout

Savard is paid fairly; Miller is overpaid. Savard is one of our defensive stalwarts; Miller is an "offensive defenseman" who can't measure up in scoring to our stay-at-home guys. I don't see those picks making up the difference.

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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
Two year average.

Or, in other words, you badly wanted to use last year's near-career year by Miller versus last year's "worse year ever in his career" for Wennberg, but couldn't do it since it's a year old and so tried to work it in somehow so you could optimally minmax. Gotcha.

Let's be fair and include both player's career bests and career worsts. That's a four-year average. That puts Miller at 11+29+41+13=94 points over 51+65+82+61=259 games, and Wennberg at 22+25+35+59=141 points over 57+75+66+80=278 games. 0.36PPG versus 0.51PPG. Which is actually pretty close to their NHL career-long averages (some links for you: http://sportsforecaster.com/nhl/player/9220/stats for Miller and http://sportsforecaster.com/nhl/player/10389/stats for Wennberg).

Does that make it a good deal for Buffalo? I dunno. But it's not the open-and-shut "one is obviously overwhelmingly superior" case you're trying to make it out to be.
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6 juin 2020 à 10 h 20
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Savard is paid fairly; Miller is overpaid. Savard is one of our defensive stalwarts; Miller is an "offensive defenseman" who can't measure up in scoring to our stay-at-home guys. I don't see those picks making up the difference.

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Or, in other words, you badly wanted to use last year's near-career year by Miller versus last year's "worse year ever in his career" for Wennberg, but couldn't do it since it's a year old and so tried to work it in somehow so you could optimally minmax. Gotcha.

Let's be fair and include both player's career bests and career worsts. That's a four-year average. That puts Miller at 11+29+41+13=94 points over 51+65+82+61=259 games, and Wennberg at 22+25+35+59=141 points over 57+75+66+80=278 games. 0.36PPG versus 0.51PPG. Which is actually pretty close to their NHL career-long averages (some links for you: http://sportsforecaster.com/nhl/player/9220/stats for Miller and http://sportsforecaster.com/nhl/player/10389/stats for Wennberg).

Does that make it a good deal for Buffalo? I dunno. But it's not the open-and-shut "one is obviously overwhelmingly superior" case you're trying to make it out to be.


I always like to add links to my search, thanks for the help.
Yes, I do not like the trade at all.
Johansson could play 3rd line center and do a better job than Wennberg and would not cost the Sabres anything.
Miller is a solid defenseman, and IMO is worth more than what would be a third line center for Buffalo.
If I trade Miller it will be to a team in need of a top 4 RHD defenseman who can run the PP, but has a surplus of Right handed forwards who may want to cut cap and will take Miller and more to close the deal.
I guess I should have stuck to these facts when objecting to the trade. But I also feel adding $1,000,000 to the cap the player should be noticeably better than Miller.
Wennberg is Left handed, third liner and does not fill a need for Buffalo.

So many Buffalo fans are so disappointed with missing the preliminaries that they want to trash the entire team.
The teams defense is very solid. Only 8 teams gave up fewer 5 on 5 goals and the Sabres have one of the worse GK tandems and top 6 forwards in the league.
Miller at 27 is the oldest of the group and is young enough that his best years are ahead of him and he is on a good contract for the next 2 years.
Personally, I like having 7 solid NHL defensemen, but I would trade any of them except Dahlin for a top 6 forward even if I need to add.
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