Canes trade is a joke

Yeah your GM cant make 1 decent trade and now you're asking him to trade 10 players with 2 1st rd pick include and a 2nd lmao

WPG trade is interesting.

NJ trade don't work. Dumping Okposo will cost you that 1st at least, and Ullmark is not worth both Palmieri and Wood.

CAR trade is a failure. Hamilton alone has more value than the package going Canes way. He's an elite D.

TB trade fails to McDonagh not waiving his full NTC...

The thoughts are that your values are pretty far off.

All of these are declined without much consideration.

Going by the assumption of this ACGM, no cbo/flat cap TB tries to convince McDonagh to waive. They'll have trouble keeping one of Cernak, Cirelli and Sergachev...

9.5 for Holtby? Ill stick with Ullmark. Sabres wouldnt want part of those trades either

Jokiharju was a good trade.
Kahun was good.

Holy crap. I just saw the Holtby contract. He'll be lucky to get 4mil...

Washington is gonna overpay him. 7.5-8.5m is my guess

Sure. I don't know how that equates to Tampa taking a garbage offer for McDonagh as shown here....

For a back up??? That's Samsonov's job now....

You sure? Well then Holtby will walk somewhere else and get paid that same amount.

It's not a great deal but McDonagh for crap or Cernak and Cirelli?? Every team in the league can see all the NMC and full ntc on TB's roster. And the ~ 5 mil in cap space....

Am I sure?? One is 23 coming off 2.55 gaa .913 sv%. The other is 30 with a 3.11 gaa . .898 sv%. Hutton had a 3.18 .898 season....

Not sure why you're presenting this as an either/or....there are several avenues for Tampa to cut cap. I have a decent amount of faith in Tampa's ability to surf the cap ceiling. They've done it for years. I have zero faith in Botts to pull off a trade like presented, he's shown he's not capable of it for years.

Why they already have a better goalie, they have no need for Holtby

I know I hoped no one realized ahah but yeah only Kahun & Joker were good trades

He needs about 10 more to make up for the ROR trade, but I usually get yelled at when I mention how epically horrible the deal was....

Holtby at 9.5mil???
Ummmm.....
Holtby is turning 31 in a couple months
And he’s had 3 seasons in a row trending downward,
with this year being flat out bad
Idk if he gets HALF of what you’re proposing
And certainly not that length either

I have a soft spot for Montour but he isn’t close to on the same level as Hamilton and that package isn’t nearly good enough

There are a lot of strange and unnecessary things.

We just need to find:
2C
top 9 RW
goalie in a free agency like Khudobin,Talbot or Greiss, we do not need Holtby for 9.5 million
maybe LD in a free agency or in trade