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3 way trade between COL TOR ARI

Créé par: Richard88
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 4 juin 2020
Publié: 4 juin 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
45 000 000 $
32 750 000 $
22 250 000 $
1925 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Demers, Jason
Détails additionnels:
Arizona need to open capspace to try to resign Hall and it makes sense to move one of Goligoski ($5.475m) or Demers ($3,937,500/1 year).

Arizona don't want much salary back, but with Soderberg and Richardson both heading to UFA it makes sense to at least acquire a young and cheap bottom 6 center (Kamenev) in addition to a pick.
ARI
  1. Kamenev, Vladislav [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
*** 3 WAY TRADE ***

To Colorado: Kapanen (for 2021 COL 2nd + $1,937,500 retention for 1 year)

To Toronto: Demers (@$2m) for Kapanen

To Arizona: Kamenev + 2021 COL 2nd (for Demers)
2.
COL
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
Détails additionnels:
Colorado receives a fast middle 6 forward that can help the PK, at the cost of a pick and capspace that would likely be unused in 2020/21.
TOR
  1. Demers, Jason
Détails additionnels:
Toronto receive a physical 2nd pairing RHD at an affordable $2m caphit. This trade also opens up $1.2m in capspace that can go towards resigning Mikheyev.
3.
COL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (CBJ)
LAK
  1. Zadorov, Nikita [Droits de RFA]
4.
COL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (OTT)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (COL)
OTT
  1. Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
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UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DD
UFA - 1
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3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance150 000 $$150K)
C
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
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4 juin 2020 à 8 h 10
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Demers is a rental, even retained Kapanen has significantly more value
4 juin 2020 à 8 h 13
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Demers is a rental, even retained Kapanen has significantly more value


he's also declined steadily for the last 3-4 years. he'd be an ok add, but not at the expense of kapanen
4 juin 2020 à 8 h 16
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Demers isn't even worth Johnsson imo, much less Kapanen.

The guy is pretty meh and also bit overpaid. You could get a player of his level much cheaper via free agency.
4 juin 2020 à 8 h 17
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Demers is a rental, even retained Kapanen has significantly more value


Quoting: JaredOfLondon
he's also declined steadily for the last 3-4 years. he'd be an ok add, but not at the expense of kapanen


What do you think Colorado would need to add on top of Demers (50% retained) to make it worthwhile for Toronto?

Also, do you think the price paid to Arizona for Demers (2nd + Kamenev) is fair?
4 juin 2020 à 8 h 19
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Demers isn't even worth Johnsson imo, much less Kapanen.

The guy is pretty meh and also bit overpaid. You could get a player of his level much cheaper via free agency.

Demers would be retained so would only have a $2m caphit with Toronto. Do you still think that's overpaid?

What 2nd pairing RHD free agents do you think you can get at such a low cap hit without giving up lots of term?
4 juin 2020 à 8 h 29
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Demers would be retained so would only have a $2m caphit with Toronto. Do you still think that's overpaid?

What 2nd pairing RHD free agents do you think you can get at such a low cap hit without giving up lots of term?


Imo Demers is not a 2nd pairing RHD. He isn't that even in ARI. He's a 3rd pair D, tops. 7th D in good teams.
4 juin 2020 à 8 h 40
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Imo Demers is not a 2nd pairing RHD. He isn't that even in ARI. He's a 3rd pair D, tops. 7th D in good teams.


Arizona actually had Demers with OEL for some time and he averaged 20:30 of ice time last year. He's probably an average 2nd pairing RD or a very strong 3rd pairing RHD. He was also 3rd in PK time (behind Goligoski by just (0:05).
4 juin 2020 à 8 h 42
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Arizona actually had Demers with OEL for some time and he averaged 20:30 of ice time last year. He's probably an average 2nd pairing RD or a very strong 3rd pairing RHD.


Only due to injuries. Had Chychrun or Hjalmarsson been healthy, Demers would have no position in their first pairs. Probably wouldn't even be in the lineup.
4 juin 2020 à 9 h 9
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Get real Demers isn't returning Kapanen, No way Demers has the Value of Kapanen.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Only due to injuries. Had Chychrun or Hjalmarsson been healthy, Demers would have no position in their first pairs. Probably wouldn't even be in the lineup.

He's easily at least Arizona's 5th Dman, comfortably ahead of Oesterle.

OEL ------------ Hjalmarsson
Chychrun ---- Goligoski
Oesterle ----- Demers
4 juin 2020 à 10 h 18
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He's easily at least Arizona's 5th Dman, comfortably ahead of Oesterle.

OEL ------------ Hjalmarsson
Chychrun ---- Goligoski
Oesterle ----- Demers


I'd say they prefer Lyubushkin over Demers long-term, but yeah for now he's their 5th D.
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