I would love Max Domi, but I don’t think he is worth the Sabres first round pick in my opinion.

Not giving up 7th o/a for Domi. Can likely get 2021 1st for him but not this years

If it's not a top 10 pick it isn't worth it to trade Domi, and he is RFA this summer, so they trade him this summer or they keep him long term

Guess Domi is staying in Montreal

If you guys are Buffalo GM and I propose this trade ( this is the base ), what would I need to had to make it worth it for you ?

Add Armia or Mete and that might get it done

If i were gm, i would take the bpa at 7 (hopefully a center or rw). Unfortunately, we currently have a lame duck gm who is pretty awful at making trades, kind of a perfect storm for you if you are trying to move a second line center to a team who has one nhl center on their roster and a 9 year and counting playoff drought in their hip pocket.

I see no reason why Montreal can't afford to add either the Habs or Hawks 2nd round pick.

Idk if tampa wants to move McElhinney, JBB got him as a veteran presence in the room after we lost Callahan and Girardi also to take a load off Vasy so he doesnt have to play as much games

There's no good way out of this mess for Tampa, this trade free a lot of cap and you're not losing too much honestly

My thought exactly. Which is why if you substitute Tomas Hertl for Max Domi, I think the add is the Tampa Bay first San Jose owns, because Domi is a RFA and Hertl has only two years left before he's a UFA. Unfortunately, the Sharks people think Hertl > Draisaitl and BUFFALO has to add their 2021 first, too (!!). {I tried this trade and that's literally what they said. They also insisted that they'd turn down Calgary's next two firsts plus Dillon Dube.}

they dont get he got 2 years remaining and GM wont offer the moon for 2 years

Domi had a down year, where they played him on the wing, and there’s questions about his attitude or fitting in or whatever...
can’t see us giving up a top10 pick for him
Especially in this draft

It would probably work out to be a decent trade for both sides
But i just think there’s too many questions with him now to have that kind of value
Only way i could see it happening is if he kills it in the playoffs for u guys, and it would be helpful if he played Center & not wing for this great performance
Then.... maybe

I hate the Hertl for our 1st idea
Would rather have Domi
But i don’t think our 2020 1st should be traded, period

Only way I’d be ok with it is if it’s in a package to get a stud like Point, or someone of similar caliber
And that’s probably doubtful

He played Center this year, he played 2C for half the season and Suzuki steal the 2C so he played 3C. The problem 3C he was playing with Lehkonen ( that I like a lot ) and Weal. Lehkonen is more of a stud defensively than a scorer ( lack of finish insane ). Weal is a 13th forward ... last year he was playing with Drouin/Lehkonen and Shaw and did 72 points. This year, he was trying to do too much since he knew is contract was up, he wasn’t passing enough, like Matthew Tkachuk in CGY, sometimes they want to do all by themselves. The best scenario to be honest is Domi stays 2C and Suzuki on is RW, but Suzuki takes all the faceoffs since he’s better.

It’s not that i couldn’t see Domi fetching a 1st from someone,
just think top10 is a little too much to ask for considering this past season’s events

With Botterill’s job on the line,
I think he’d be particularly risky for the Sabres
But we do need a 2C desperately,
so if that’s the best talent Botts can get...
then it might be a possibility

I’d be shocked if we went into next season with our 2C choices as Johansson (who’s better on the wing), and Mittelstadt & Cozens (both unproven at NHL level).
I don’t think Botts can risk that
So the general framework for a deal u proposed isn’t totally out of the question
But we are gonna win the lotto anyways! 😂😂😂
Good luck vs PIT
Maybe Price can steal a couple for ya?

I really want that 8th OA 😂 can’t pass a Raymond Perfetti Rossi Holtz just to win one pre-playoffs round lol

2020 1st + Pilut for Domi + Mete

If you’re the GM of a team who hasn’t made the playoffs in 9 years and your star player isn’t happy this move should be considered. Sure it’s hard to move a high pick like this but all you have to do is ask yourself will that pick immediately jump into my lineup and be an impact C who will put up anywheres from 50-70+ points and likely become a fan favourite? The Sabres need to start winning now and can’t afford to wait a couple years for a high pick to make an impact.

I hear ya

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My first thought to this trade was to offer next years first round pick.
Then I wondered what Sabre fans would say if Bergevin offered MTL 2020 first for Reinhart?
Then one reads this article:
https://thehockeywriters.com/sabres-trade-targets-2020-first-round-pick/
I would presume an unbiased sport source feels Buffalo’s 2020 first and Ristolainen for Domi and MTL’s 2nd.

So I put the two together, how do I value Reinhart and the Hockey writers article then realized that this years first for Domi is a good deal and maybe Buffalo would have to add.
I would imagine Domi with Skinner would do extremely well.

How about these lines:
Olofsson - Eichel - Reinhart
Skinner - Domi - Dadonov
Johansson - Kahun/Thompson/Mittelstadt/Cozens pick 2 for RW and Center
Asplund - Lazar - Okposo
Of course that means we have to lose Girgensons and Larsson and over pay to get Dadonov. But those are two really good lines.
Read this morning BN article by Lysowski about the PK and Asplund.

Let me add, if we had better forwards, more of the play would be in the offensive zone which would lead to fewer GA.

We will have a rather serious problem with the cap, soon Dahlin will have to be extended. I would not sign Dadonov, but rather I would try to trade Risto or Montour for such a player as Tuch or Virtanen, we obviously lack power.

I would also draw such lines, since Reinhart plays too relaxed when he is on the wing of Jack, Domi also has some chemistry with Reinhart, as they used to play together before.

Skinner - Eichel - Tuch/Virtanen
Olofsson - Domi - Reinhart
Johansson - Cozens/Mitts - Kahun/Thompson
Asplund/Ruotsalainen - Lazar/Asplund - Okposo

This is an interesting proposal. To me the Habs have some big decisions to make this summer and next. We have some big components that decisions need to be made on. Do we keep Tatar who has been our best forward the past couple seasons or is he the one to move. It doesn’t seem realistic to me to keep all of Tatar, Danault, Gallagher, Petry and Domi. With all the young talent coming up someone should be moved and each player has a great case as to why he should be kept. Domi is a spark plug who can have a big impact on a game and personally I love the guy. But is he a Centre or a winger. The Habs have too many centre options Sure none of them appear as a true 1C but as a group still very effective. Suzuki to me is our 2C of the future in just his first season he was a big impact. KK was drafted to be the guy so I can’t see him moving. Danault is an under rated great defensive centre who can put up points. I tend to lean towards moving Tatar mostly because of his age and the thought that management just decides who between Domi and Suzuki gets to be a centre.

This trade makes me think that moving Domi might not be a bad idea, I feel like extending guys like Danault, Tatar and Gally may put us in a tight spot with the cap. There will be a great player available with that Buffalo pick and it won’t cost a lot for a few years so this will help if they decide to keep the veterans. Getting Risto also gives the habs some flexibility on the right side, Petry can either be traded or walk after his contract expires and having Risto allows habs a bit more time to develop a RHD into a top 4 role. (Hopefully Brook).

In conclusion is don’t envy Bergevin because I truly don’t know what direction this team should go in hahaha.

My post was actually directed to the Buffalo fans who thought the 2020 first was too much for Domi, while I am sure all of them would want more than MTL's 2020 first for Reinhart.
OK, here is my thoughts on Bergevin's dilemma, one can never have too many centers. That is a blessing not a curse.
Buffalo has an elite top line center and a good 4th line center and nothing in the middle.
Having Kotkaniemi, Domi, Danault and Suzuki is a good thing. I would not be trading any of them and let them fight for more minutes.

But what do I know. I have not studied MTL cap issue closely enough to understand the issues.
Regardless, my reason for posting was to emphasize how much the trade benefits Buffalo, by comparing the perceived value of Reinhart and the Hockey Writers article.

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I am firmly convinced that the value of the seventh overall pick in this draft is Tomas Hertl plus the Tampa Bay first or Max Domi and the Montreal second. The value of term cannot be overstated.

Look at where some star centermen were taken recently. Horvat at 9. Larkin at 15. Barzal somewhere in between (I recall 13 but I'm not interrupting this to go look.)

If the draft order stays the same (I.e., no one jumps ahead of you), you rate to get to choose between at least two and probably three of Rossi, Perfetti, Lundell and RW Holtz. Which would you rather have: one of those players under team control for 6 years, or two years of Tomas Hertl plus the appreciable chance that he'll walk after that and you'll have nothing?

There's no chance that happens with Domi because you can sign him long-term now -- IF he co-operates. But he's still a risk.

Many times, the best asset management isn't making the most beneficial move, but avoiding the really damaging bad move.