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Marner question

Créé par: MaxDomi13
Date de création initiale: jun 1, 2020
Publié: Jun 1 at 5:59 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
Why is everyone trading Marner for scrap? I've seen a bunch of Marner trades that I don't like, the most recent being for Fowler (what)?

So my question to you, is what is Marner's actual value? If possible, I'm looking for something like (for example, I don't think this is enough for Marner) Top 6 F, AHL Top 2 D, D- prospect
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: 1 100 000 $ (22%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
TOR
TOR
VGK
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $81 721 866 $0 $0 $-221 866 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 893 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
850 000 $
AG
RFA - 3
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
TOR
Clifford, Kyle
800 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
675 000 $
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
TOR
Barrie, Tyson
2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Holl, Justin
675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
TOR
Campbell, Jack
675 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 3
TOR
Dermott, Travis
863 333 $
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Ceci, Cody
4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
5 300 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
5 250 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Malgin, Denis
750 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
3 400 000 $
AG
UFA - 4

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1 jun à 18 h 00
#1
Hugh Hefner of CF
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Simple, just like us not wanting to pay the price for top RD, no one wants to pay Marner's worth either.
1 jun à 18 h 01
#2
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NoBrodinGhostLeddy
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Quoting: Trickster
Simple, just like us not wanting to pay the price for top RD, no one wants to pay Marner's worth either.


huh ok
1 jun à 18 h 06
#3
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I think the proposal at the top is pretty good. A good RHD to paid with Rielly, middle-6 forward, and a decent prospect/pick
1 jun à 18 h 07
#4
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Quoting: NR1203
I think the proposal at the top is pretty good. A good RHD to paid with Rielly, middle-6 forward, and a decent prospect/pick


But he isn't getting traded tho, that's just what I think his fair value is
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1 jun à 18 h 07
#5
Leafs fan...sorry
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the fowler trade was by a noted troll
1 jun à 18 h 16
#6
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two separate issues
1- that fowler trade was a dude who got mad that leaf fans (specifically me) called him out on being a dummy so he made a bunch of childish troll threads
2- people think that because Marner had a good but not incredible season and the fact that he is maybe 1-1.5 million over paid that he is useless and needs to go, and people are dumb
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1 jun à 18 h 19
#7
BananaJesus
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they undervalue him because of his contract. In truth if marner goes the best proposal I saw for him is the one where he goes to NJ for a 1st + 3-4 good players (i think they were bratt + Severson + foote + Boqvist)
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1 jun à 18 h 30
#8
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Dubas…..giving Nylander and Marner 6 years and Matthews 5 years. Obviously Matthews wants to play for an American city ASAP and Marner wants to be UFA at the same time as J.T.

Robertson doesn't play this year, Ceci gets playoff action.
1 jun à 18 h 50
#9
Leafs fan...sorry
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
two separate issues
1- that fowler trade was a dude who got mad that leaf fans (specifically me) called him out on being a dummy so he made a bunch of childish troll threads
2- people think that because Marner had a good but not incredible season and the fact that he is maybe 1-1.5 million over paid that he is useless and needs to go, and people are dumb


he did have a great season, but his point totals were hurt by injury. He was on a 95 point pace
1 jun à 18 h 51
#10
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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
Dubas…..giving Nylander and Marner 6 years and Matthews 5 years. Obviously Matthews wants to play for an American city ASAP and Marner wants to be UFA at the same time as J.T.

Robertson doesn't play this year, Ceci gets playoff action.


Because that happens so often. Matthews is a Leaf for life. No question, one of Nylander or Marner may leave but I doubt that will happen for at least 6 years. This notion that Matthews wants to leave is just laughable. JT left because Snow was terrible and Lou is no better. Hall left New Jersey because the team sucks and he's running out of career. Players just don't leave their teams in the NHL unless they just cost too much and are secondary players.
1 jun à 18 h 52
#11
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Quoting: KileDoobis
he did have a great season, but his point totals were hurt by injury. He was on a 95 point pace


not incredible though, not what people expected of him. his biggest supporters were mad he didnt make him look good and his biggest detractors were delighted he didnt hit the heights his contract demands set up. Basically people looking for a reason to be mad tossed in with cap madness because that's all anyone seems to care about when talking about the leafs. Contract value is more important than on ice value
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1 jun à 21 h 08
#12
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Because that happens so often. Matthews is a Leaf for life. No question, one of Nylander or Marner may leave but I doubt that will happen for at least 6 years. This notion that Matthews wants to leave is just laughable. JT left because Snow was terrible and Lou is no better. Hall left New Jersey because the team sucks and he's running out of career. Players just don't leave their teams in the NHL unless they just cost too much and are secondary players.


Messier leaves Gretzky and the NYR after making it to the Conference Finals...…..the Curse of Mess was real....After the Mess left and rejoined the NYR, they failed to make the playoffs until he retire, than suddenly the Rangers got back in. Mess with the 'Nucks, 3 years, 0 playoffs. Mess leaves V.City and than too suddenly get back into the playoffs.

Messier is the most over rated player.
 
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