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Getting Eichel

Créé par: Saskleaf
Date de création initiale: mai 31, 2020
Publié: 1 jun à 13 h 44
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
Don't even try to say Eichel is worth more. Just don't.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Mikheyev, Ilya11 800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Clifford, Kyle11 200 000 $
Spezza, Jason1800 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. Eichel, Jack
  2. Jokiharju, Henri
  3. 2020 2e round pick (BUF)
  4. 2022 3e round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Matthews, Auston
  2. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
  3. Gauthier, Frédérik [Droits de RFA]
  4. 2020 4e round pick (VGK)
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
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2020
TOR
BUF
TOR
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
BUF
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 099 533 $0 $637 500 $400 467 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 893 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
1 800 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
3 400 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
TOR
Clifford, Kyle
1 200 000 $
AG
UFA
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
800 000 $
C, AD
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 2
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Marincin, Martin
700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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1 jun à 14 h 18
#26
Rejoint: aoû 2019
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Quoting: Smithcd995
Not slandering Matthews whatsoever. Simply stating facts. This isn't a who's team is better argument, it's not a copout at all.


i understad but the main point people use for eichel is that his teams worse so they make it a team vs team thing
1 jun à 14 h 18
#27
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Quoting: Sabres923
Yes it’s important. Matthews signed for 3 less years. Matthews could be leaving while Eichel is still hopefully playing in Buffalo for 2 more years.


well, only one of these players seems happy where they are so i wouldnt bank on that
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1 jun à 14 h 20
#28
Rejoint: jui 2019
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Quoting: vr1995
i understad but the main point people use for eichel is that his teams worse so they make it a team vs team thing


I always laugh at this cause when Eichel had Skinner, who almost scored more goals than Matthews linemates had points, Matthews still outproduced Eichel.
1 jun à 14 h 20
#29
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Quoting: vr1995
i understad but the main point people use for eichel is that his teams worse so they make it a team vs team thing


They/we are saying, let Eichel play with Marner and then let Matthews play with Reinhart and then we can argue. You wouldn't take Reinhart over Marner in any universe.
1 jun à 14 h 21
#30
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Quoting: Byrr
I always laugh at this cause when Eichel had Skinner, who almost scored more goals than Matthews linemates had points, Matthews still outproduced Eichel.


Eichel was the main reason Skinner did that though. He gets taken away from him this year and has an awful year.
1 jun à 14 h 22
#31
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Quoting: vr1995
1.147 vs 1.142 lmao, keep on nit picking buddy


Quoting: vr1995
1.147 vs 1.142 lmao, keep on nit picking buddy

I mean if they switched roles it’s obvious Eichel would do better.
1 jun à 14 h 22
#32
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Quoting: Smithcd995
Eichel was the main reason Skinner did that though. He gets taken away from him this year and has an awful year.


So Matthews would still be better cause he did it regardless of linemates. Eichel had a good winger in Skinner and he didn't have the impact Matthews did.
1 jun à 14 h 24
#33
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Quoting: Byrr
So Matthews would still be better cause he did it regardless of linemates. Eichel had a good winger in Skinner and he didn't have the impact Matthews did.


Because Matthews played with total bums right.
1 jun à 14 h 25
#34
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Quoting: Sabres923
Eichel played two less games had a higher ppg. And is one of the worst teams in the league.. plus he often gets doubled team when he gets the puck.


Matthews had 11 more goals and did it with less ice time at both even strength and on the power play. And the difference in PPG was 1.147 to 1.143
1 jun à 14 h 26
#35
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Quoting: Smithcd995
Because Matthews played with total bums right.


Are you saying guys like Kapanen and Marleau are better than Skinner? Leafs fans need to start asking for more for Kapanen if so.
1 jun à 14 h 26
#36
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Quoting: Sabres923
I mean if they switched roles it’s obvious Eichel would do better.


no it isnt, obviously Matthews would do better.
1 jun à 14 h 27
#37
Shibbal18
Rejoint: jan 2016
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Eichel and Jokiharju are. Also Toronto is the last place they would trade him
1 jun à 14 h 27
#38
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Quoting: Smithcd995
They/we are saying, let Eichel play with Marner and then let Matthews play with Reinhart and then we can argue. You wouldn't take Reinhart over Marner in any universe.


no i wouldnt, but reinhart isnt bad by any means? who would you rather have kapanen? or reinhart?
1 jun à 14 h 28
#39
total_knut
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I'm completely impartial since I don't have any ties to either team whatsoever. (in other words I'm not picking sides or biased)

If both Matthews and Eichel are magically available today for the picking, as-is, no other factors but their own abilities and contracts: I'm picking Eichel hands down and it's not even close.

The $1.634M savings, the signing bonus structure, the two extra years.....these are not small things. Debate the talent H2H all you want but that will always be subjective. These other factors I mentioned are not subjective. Easy decision.
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1 jun à 14 h 30
#40
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
no it isnt, obviously Matthews would do better.


Quoting: Byrr
Are you saying guys like Kapanen and Marleau are better than Skinner? Leafs fans need to start asking for more for Kapanen if so.

Eichel didn’t play with Skinner this year, only in the last two games.
Eichel has played with Folgnio, Moulson, Cal O’Reilly, Jordan Nolan, Zemgus Girgenson. Sure he has had some good players like Reinhart, Olofsson and with Skinner in 18-19. But he’s definitely been put into a horrible situation, compared to Matthews.
1 jun à 14 h 30
#41
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
no it isnt, obviously Matthews would do better.


Quoting: Byrr
Are you saying guys like Kapanen and Marleau are better than Skinner? Leafs fans need to start asking for more for Kapanen if so.

Eichel didn’t play with Skinner this year, only in the last two games.
Eichel has played with Folgnio, Moulson, Cal O’Reilly, Jordan Nolan, Zemgus Girgenson. Sure he has had some good players like Reinhart, Olofsson and with Skinner in 18-19. But he’s definitely been put into a horrible situation, compared to Matthews.
1 jun à 14 h 30
#42
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Quoting: total_knut
I'm completely impartial since I don't have any ties to either team whatsoever. (in other words I'm not picking sides or biased)

If both Matthews and Eichel are magically available today for the picking, as-is, no other factors but their own abilities and contracts: I'm picking Eichel hands down and it's not even close.

The $1.634M savings, the signing bonus structure, the two extra years.....these are not small things. Debate the talent H2H all you want but that will always be subjective. These other factors I mentioned are not subjective. Easy decision.


yes, non-leafs fans are notoriously impartial to the Leafs, it is true. I 100% believe you in your impartial and totally unbiased deductions with the zero facts you presented about which player is actually better
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1 jun à 14 h 31
#43
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Quoting: Sabres923
Eichel didn’t play with Skinner this year, only in the last two games.
Eichel has played with Folgnio, Moulson, Cal O’Reilly, Jordan Nolan, Zemgus Girgenson. Sure he has had some good players like Reinhart, Olofsson and with Skinner in 18-19. But he’s definitely been put into a horrible situation, compared to Matthews.


let me put it this way. You have zero proof that Eichel would do better in Matthews situation. Zero. You are assuming based off things like team while ignoring that Mathews IS the driver on that bus, and he is not only a better scorer but he's also better defensively, and younger.
1 jun à 14 h 43
#44
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
yes, non-leafs fans are notoriously impartial to the Leafs, it is true. I 100% believe you in your impartial and totally unbiased deductions with the zero facts you presented about which player is actually better


The leafs are taking up tons of real estate in their own fans head. Didn't even know that was possible. Nobody cares about the leafs as much as you think man. They haven't won anything in most of the populations lifetime to garner that sort of attention. Maybe Pittsburgh.
1 jun à 14 h 46
#45
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Quoting: Smithcd995
The leafs are taking up tons of real estate in their own fans head. Didn't even know that was possible. Nobody cares about the leafs as much as you think man. They haven't won anything in most of the populations lifetime to garner that sort of attention. Maybe Pittsburgh.


exactly which is the funny part, leafs havent done anything but they manage to have rent free real estate in evreyones head
1 jun à 14 h 48
#46
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Quoting: vr1995
exactly which is the funny part, leafs havent done anything but they manage to have rent free real estate in evreyones head


They really don't, ya'll are in your own head.
1 jun à 14 h 49
#47
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Quoting: Smithcd995
They really don't, ya'll are in your own head.


yuuuuuppppppp
1 jun à 14 h 53
#48
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Quoting: vr1995
yuuuuuppppppp


Every non sabre or leaf fan that commented here said Eichel is more valuable and ya'll pull out the "Everyone hates the leafs" card. Like what? NFL fans don't say the Cowboys suck because they're the Cowboys or the Yankees because they're the Yankees or the Lakers because they're the Lakers. But all NHL fans do for the Leafs apparently.
1 jun à 14 h 53
#49
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Quoting: Smithcd995
The leafs are taking up tons of real estate in their own fans head. Didn't even know that was possible. Nobody cares about the leafs as much as you think man. They haven't won anything in most of the populations lifetime to garner that sort of attention. Maybe Pittsburgh.


yes, that is why leaf trade threads are always full of non-leafs fans talking about how the other team is getting ripped off, why every tweet or article about the leafs is followed by mass streams of other fans wondering loudly and angrily why the leafs are always being talked about.
And it's exactly why you, an 'impartial' fan came here to say something about the leafs.
It's always about the leafs my dude, we know it, you know it.
1 jun à 14 h 54
#50
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Quoting: Smithcd995
Every non sabre or leaf fan that commented here said Eichel is more valuable and ya'll pull out the "Everyone hates the leafs" card. Like what? NFL fans don't say the Cowboys suck because they're the Cowboys or the Yankees because they're the Yankees or the Lakers because they're the Lakers. But all NHL fans do for the Leafs apparently.


yes, they do. thanks for acknowledging it.
 
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