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3C and RHD - Jenner and Savard CBJ

Créé par: Richard88
Date de création initiale: mai 30, 2020
Publié: May 30 at 6:28 pm
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Explications
Colorado could do with a more natural fit at 3C and a RHD. What would Columbus want in return for Jenner and/or Savard?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Burakovsky, André45 000 000 $
Graves, Ryan32 750 000 $
Nichushkin, Valeri22 250 000 $
O'Connor, Logan1925 000 $
Transactions
COL
  1. Jenner, Boone
  2. Savard, David
CBJ
  1. Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]
  2. Kamenev, Vladislav [Droits de RFA]
  3. Zadorov, Nikita [Droits de RFA]
  4. 2021 2e round pick (COL)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
COL
TOR
COL
COL
FLA
COL
2021
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
2022
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $79 879 762 $0 $5 425 000 $1 620 238 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
COL
Landeskog, Gabriel
5 571 429 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 1
COL
MacKinnon, Nathan
6 300 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
COL
Rantanen, Mikko
9 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
COL
Burakovsky, André
5 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
COL
Kadri, Nazem
4 500 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
COL
Donskoi, Joonas
3 900 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
COL
Nichushkin, Valeri
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
CBJ
Jenner, Boone
3 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
COL
Compher, J.T.
3 500 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
COL
Calvert, Matt
2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
COL
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
1 800 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
COL
Kaut, Martin
894 167 $
C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
COL
Graves, Ryan
2 750 000 $
DG
RFA
COL
Makar, Cale
880 833 $
DD
RFA - 1
COL
Grubauer, Philipp
3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 1
COL
Girard, Samuel
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 7
CBJ
Savard, David
4 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
COL
Francouz, Pavel
2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
COL
Byram, Bowen
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
COL
Johnson, Erik
6 000 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
COL
O'Connor, Logan
925 000 $
AD
RFA
COL
Cole, Ian
4 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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30 mai à 18 h 46
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Columbus declines.

Jost is the only interesting player in the trade to Columbus, and that’s only if he’s a center, I’m not sold that he is.

Zadorov- we have tons of LHD and Zadorov would maybe be 3rd pair

Kamenev is meh, 3rd line center prospect maybe...

Jenner was our 2nd line center last year and Savard is our best defensive defenseman. The proposed trade doesn’t really do much for Columbus right now.

Maybe if we’re out at the deadline, but not if we’re competitive.
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30 mai à 18 h 47
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I’ll take Jost’s potential over Jenner and Zadorov and the 2nd over Savard.
30 mai à 18 h 53
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Quoting: Xqb15
I’ll take Jost’s potential over Jenner and Zadorov and the 2nd over Savard.


that really under rates CBJ players. Savard would return at least a 1st at TDL
30 mai à 19 h 00
#4
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Quoting: Xqb15
I’ll take Jost’s potential over Jenner and Zadorov and the 2nd over Savard.


In a nutshell I agree, but this team needs to start making moves to win now.

Waiting on Jost may pay off I agree, but this team needs players who can help us win a cup more than it needs potential - particularly as we also have Newhook and Bowers on the way as (potential) top 9 C's.

Zadorov is likely getting traded regardless, and rather than trading him for some picks a move for Savard would help put us over the top right now.
30 mai à 20 h 34
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Your team is so strong, and you've drafted so well, that if you could land these two players, you could afford to make your first-round pick this year part of the package. I also see from this construction that even with the two additions, you're set up for the 2021 off-season: essentially, Landeskog will get Calvert's money, Makar will get Cole's money, and Savard will get Bellemare's money, and you shouldn't have any problem with the cap. And losing one of your depth forwards in the expansion draft will only help that aspect of the picture.
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30 mai à 21 h 01
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Quoting: pharrow
that really under rates CBJ players. Savard would return at least a 1st at TDL


I’m not under rating them at all, Colorado is looking to move a dman to clear a spot for Byram and Jenner is a guy producing under 30pts playing over 18 minutes a game. That’s any easy pass for COL.
30 mai à 21 h 12
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Quoting: Richard88
In a nutshell I agree, but this team needs to start making moves to win now.

Waiting on Jost may pay off I agree, but this team needs players who can help us win a cup more than it needs potential - particularly as we also have Newhook and Bowers on the way as (potential) top 9 C's.

Zadorov is likely getting traded regardless, and rather than trading him for some picks a move for Savard would help put us over the top right now.


Jenner imo isn’t an upgrade on Compher or Jost especially considering the reduced iced time he would see. The Avs top 4 on d is rolling with Graves & Makar, and G & EJ. They are already top 4 in GA the amount of expected improvement isn’t worth the cost. Realistically, and I know you know this, the Avs will probably look to add a top 6 winger and move a dman to clear a spot for Byram. With Kaut, Bowers and LOC all ready they don’t need to add anything to the bottom 6.

And neither Jenner or Savard in the roles they would play with Avs are enough of a needle mover to do it.
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30 mai à 21 h 21
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Quoting: Xqb15
Jenner imo isn’t an upgrade on Compher or Jost especially considering the reduced iced time he would see. The Avs top 4 on d is rolling with Graves & Makar, and G & EJ. They are already top 4 in GA the amount of expected improvement isn’t worth the cost. Realistically, and I know you know this, the Avs will probably look to add a top 6 winger and move a dman to clear a spot for Byram. With Kaut, Bowers and LOC all ready they don’t need to add anything to the bottom 6.

And neither Jenner or Savard in the roles they would play with Avs are enough of a needle mover to do it.


I agree on Jenner. He's not a big upgrade, just perhaps more of a natural fit at 3C.

I do think a RHD like Savard would really solidify this teams D though, as it would bump Johnson down to the 3rd pairing where he can be paired with Byram to mentor him, and so his ice time can be managed a bit more to slow the decline.

The pieces that are of most interest are Anderson and Savard, and maybe a trade around Jost + 1st + 3rd would make sense, to plug the top 6 forward role and 2nd pairing RHD.

Acquiring Savard would be dependent on Timmins not being ready though. It's hard to know whether or not he'll be deemed ready for the team by the start of next season, particularly as he'd have missed 18 months, plus 9+ months due to the lockdown, and just played ~35 games in between. 35 games in ~3 years is not a lot of hockey to judge him on and maybe he'd be best served with a lot of ice time in the AHL.
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