As my second fav is the jets, I think this is way too much for Eichel. Take out one of the firsts at least.

If you trade both Ehlers and Connor it kind of defeats the purpose, would need to keep one of them.

Not to Buf fans apparently anything short of Laine and Scheifele with two first round picks is bad

I understand their point but at some point it does get to be too much even for Eichel, I can understand why they're pissed though, remember all the gawd awful Laine trades and the many morons on here calling him a 'one trick pony'???.. Lol

Yeah true I understand their frusturation. The trade above is definitely fair in my opinion

I think only one of Connor/Ehlers, then picks and prospects

No, buffalo fans think the idea that eichel would be traded is stupid and that you all are annoying.

Yeah I know I am mostly playing, I don't think hell be going anywhere anytime soon. Besides, he did sign an 8 year extension or whatever it was a couple years ago. I wouldn't take to much out of his comments for you Sabres fans, every player would get annoyed losing but doesn't necessarily means he is leaving.

I'd be worried if he wasn't angry.

He isnt going anywhere. It's a fiction

Yeah I mean all you have to look at is when was the last time a player his caliber at his age was traded? I mean obviously Gretzky was but I mean that doesn't relate to this at all.

Buffalo traded Pierre Turgeon at his age...for Pat LaFontaine. 1992

I mean at this day in age, him playing until FA is 20X more likely.

Agreed.

Real problem in all the thoughts in Buffalo is that there close, piece here piece there and contention. Been teased a little too long, with any eichel trade I don’t think there is a retool, it has to be a tear down and dreaded rebuild with cozens and dahlin the starting points.

I don’t think he would cost nearly as much as buffalo fans are making him out to cost. Look at how much strome and karlsson got...though karlsson wasn’t signed long term (but he did have a first added if he did)

Maybe somewhere in the middle of the 2? So a you g roster player with top 6 potential, a top prospect, a good one, and a guaranteed first as well as a 2nd that could become a first.

I don’t think any team (especially a team like WPG who has difficulty signing players long term) will trade long term core pieces even for eichel. It kind of kills the point. I also don’t think buffalo will ask for those types of pieces as they will likely want top prospects if they do move on from eichel not core players the same age since it would likely be eichel round 2 with that player in a few years

I would offer roslovic, Chisholm, vesalainen, 2021 1st, 2022 2nd that becomes first if the jets he to the finals for example

If I’m buffalos gm, I’m looking for a team with a couple cap dumps worth around the 10 million, say little and pearrault and couple past first rounders exempt from expansion draft, and as many draft picks as possible. Draft the first rounders received and with the extra later picks try to upgrade your list for expansion. Not sure if it would fly possibly a riot in buffalo, but try to have the quickest retool or rebuild in history.

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I will be the first to say, as a talent exchange, Buffalo wins this transaction, by a wide margin
That being said, it is all the wrong pieces.
I do not watch the Jets, but are both Connor and Ehlers LH LW? How does that help when Buffalo already have Olofsson and Skinner?
Heinola is a decent LHD, but Buffalo is very deep on Defense and has several LHD prospects who may be nearly as good as Heinola.
I love the draft picks, but if Buffalo trades Jack that means they are looking to rebuild and a first from 2021 may not be ready until 2025!
So IMO the Sabres would want a top RW, a couple of really good prospect and a couple of picks.
So Laine, Vesalainen, another prospect, 2020 1st round pick (WPG) and 2020 2nd round pick (WPG).
Buffalo would have 4 picks among the top 40 in this year’s draft.
Unfortunately Buffalo would have TWO DONUT lines instead of one.
I think Buffalo would still say no, but at least it is the parts that Buffalo could use.

What I really hate about getting Laine, is that if we had not jumped started the rebuild, Buffalo would have a good shot at Dubois, Laine or even Matthews and Jack.
But maybe Murray would have drafted Nylander anyway in the 2nd or 3rd OA.

please stop tagging me in your posts GMTM/gretzkyghosts

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Thats a great idea. Enjoy life

Liane Vesalianen, Heinola, and a first and a second would be pretty good. Heinola is very useful to Buffalo. They have no really good left d behind Dahlin, but a healthy amount of right d

I mostly get annoyed with the Eichel trades, not for the value, but because the idea that he wants out or has a foot out the door. although some of them are quite silly. its not often at all that a 23 year old superstar locked up for 6 years at a reasonable salary would become available. its hard to find a comp.

I will say, Heinola is a question mark as much as Samuelsson or Johnson (#32 overall in 2018 and #31 overall in 2019), although he of course is valuable.

Heinola is way way less of a question mark than those two, being one/two years younger, and having more nhl experience.

a Heinola/Jokiharju would be a fun Finnish pairing. but eichel isnt moving so its moot unless theres another scenario.

I agree Eichel not going anywhere. It’s just fun to make you sabres fans annoyed.