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Eichel trade not sure why

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Équipe: 2019-20 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 29 mai 2020
Publié: 29 mai 2020
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Is this fair?
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  1. Caufield, Cole [Liste de réserve]
  2. Drouin, Jonathan
  3. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
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29 mai 2020 à 19 h 14
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Do we WANT Eichel tho? We could land Perfetti in the draft...
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29 mai 2020 à 19 h 17
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Do we WANT Eichel tho? We could land Perfetti in the draft...


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29 mai 2020 à 19 h 26
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Do we WANT Eichel tho? We could land Perfetti in the draft...


Eichel is way better.
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Think this is fair?
29 mai 2020 à 19 h 28
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Eichel is way better.


Hmm

FUTURE LINEUP

Domi - Suzuki - Caufield
Drouin - Kotkaniemi - Gallagher
Tatar - Danault - Ylonen
Poehling - Evans - Harris

That's a strong offense but yeah i agree Eichel > Perfetti, I just don't wanna pay the price for Eichel
29 mai 2020 à 19 h 45
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Hmm

FUTURE LINEUP

Domi - Suzuki - Caufield
Drouin - Kotkaniemi - Gallagher
Tatar - Danault - Ylonen
Poehling - Evans - Harris

That's a strong offense but yeah i agree Eichel > Perfetti, I just don't wanna pay the price for Eichel


Suzuki for pacioretty was a steeal of a trade! Ish...
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29 mai 2020 à 19 h 47
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Eichel is one of the best players in the league dont get me wrong... But not a single team is going to pay that price especially considering the situation ( Eichel possibly asking for a trade). Buf would be in a bad situation to negotiate. To be closer youd have to remove one of Caufield, KK or the first. Also replace Drouin with Domi.
29 mai 2020 à 19 h 58
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I think this is a very good trade, as a Habs fan I'd do it. But would Bergy ever really do anything this big.
29 mai 2020 à 20 h 20
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Quoting: MaxDomi13


Domi's getting traded to play for Winnipeg for Elhors, like his dad played for the Jets.
or...
Domi gets traded to NYR for Chytil, like his dad played for the Rangers.
or...
Domi gets traded to Toronto for Kapanen, like his dad played for the Leafs.
or...
Domi gets traded to Peterborough for McTavish, like his dad played for the Petes.
29 mai 2020 à 20 h 27
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Domi's getting traded to play for Winnipeg for Elhors, like his dad played for the Jets.
or...
Domi gets traded to NYR for Chytil, like his dad played for the Rangers.
or...
Domi gets traded to Toronto for Kapanen, like his dad played for the Leafs.
or...
Domi gets traded to Peterborough for McTavish, like his dad played for the Petes.


...
29 mai 2020 à 22 h 2
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Quoting: math731
Eichel is one of the best players in the league dont get me wrong... But not a single team is going to pay that price especially considering the situation ( Eichel possibly asking for a trade). Buf would be in a bad situation to negotiate. To be closer youd have to remove one of Caufield, KK or the first. Also replace Drouin with Domi.


That is not how ecomonics works. How many Top 5 centers are ever available for trade? Hiw many teams will be making offers? 10 to 20. Defimitely a sellers market. And if the best offer is as bad as the one above, they just keep him. Good consolation prize.
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That is not how ecomonics works. How many Top 5 centers are ever available for trade? Hiw many teams will be making offers? 10 to 20. Defimitely a sellers market. And if the best offer is as bad as the one above, they just keep him. Good consolation prize.


How is this bad? You get 3 excellent picks/ prospect and a good roster player to replace for the time being. Maybe make it Domi if you want.
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I think this is a very good trade, as a Habs fan I'd do it. But would Bergy ever really do anything this big.

Thanks bud.
29 mai 2020 à 22 h 18
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How is this bad? You get 3 excellent picks/ prospect and a good roster player to replace for the time being. Maybe make it Domi if you want.


Someone outbids this and doesn't even break a sweat. Heck, the Blackhawks could beat this with no problem. At the end of the day, you need to give Buffalo a reason to move Eichel. This ain't it.
29 mai 2020 à 22 h 19
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Someone outbids this and doesn't even break a sweat. Heck, the Blackhawks could beat this with no problem. At the end of the day, you need to give Buffalo a reason to move Eichel. This ain't it.


You’re not getting more. Sorry
30 mai 2020 à 7 h 15
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Eichel is way better.


Who can confirm that? He could be a 150 PT center or he could be a career AHL, you never know
30 mai 2020 à 7 h 35
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That is not how ecomonics works. How many Top 5 centers are ever available for trade? Hiw many teams will be making offers? 10 to 20. Defimitely a sellers market. And if the best offer is as bad as the one above, they just keep him. Good consolation prize.


There is just 1 Eichel and 30 teams that want him. The math is pretty favorable for the Sabres if they decide to trade him.
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30 mai 2020 à 7 h 40
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That is not how ecomonics works. How many Top 5 centers are ever available for trade? Hiw many teams will be making offers? 10 to 20. Defimitely a sellers market. And if the best offer is as bad as the one above, they just keep him. Good consolation prize.


Economics work by supply and demand. You say definitely a sellers market, but realistically, there would be very few teams that would be in the position to trade for him (cap space and assets). Buffalo would never get what he is actually worth.
30 mai 2020 à 8 h 14
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You’re not getting more. Sorry


Then you don't get Eichel. Sorry.
30 mai 2020 à 8 h 16
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Economics work by supply and demand. You say definitely a sellers market, but realistically, there would be very few teams that would be in the position to trade for him (cap space and assets). Buffalo would never get what he is actually worth.


Lmfao, quod erat demonstrandum! There is 1 Eichel. That's not a lot of supply. That aside, cap is no issue. Buffalo can take back all kinds of bad contracts having moved out $10 mil in Eichel. I might as well try to reason with a monkey.
30 mai 2020 à 8 h 20
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Lmfao, quod erat demonstrandum! There is 1 Eichel. That's not a lot of supply. That aside, cap is no issue. Buffalo can take back all kinds of bad contracts having moved out $10 mil in Eichel. I might as well try to reason with a monkey.


It makes sense for pretty much every team to pay what it would require to get Eichel. You would have to be a consistent playoff team that desperately needs a #1 center and have plenty of assets to give up that would still allow you to be an elite team. There really aren't any examples in the league.
30 mai 2020 à 8 h 29
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It makes sense for pretty much every team to pay what it would require to get Eichel. You would have to be a consistent playoff team that desperately needs a #1 center and have plenty of assets to give up that would still allow you to be an elite team. There really aren't any examples in the league.


Have you ever watched hockey before? Add a Top 5C to any team in the top 20 teams in the league and they're a contender immediately. At least 2 or 3 other GMs mistakenly think they are. So a market of minimally 10 teams-15 teams. Have you ever encountered numbers before? You are a paragon of nonsense and bad takes.

And of course you can't make a point without contradicting your entire premise...by your own ridiculous logic, Montreal wouldn't want Eichel as they're not a "consistent playoff team". Give your forehead a knock and see if you hear echoes.
30 mai 2020 à 9 h 0
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Have you ever watched hockey before? Add a Top 5C to any team in the top 20 teams in the league and they're a contender immediately. At least 2 or 3 other GMs mistakenly think they are. So a market of minimally 10 teams-15 teams. Have you ever encountered numbers before? You are a paragon of nonsense and bad takes.

And of course you can't make a point without contradicting your entire premise...by your own ridiculous logic, Montreal wouldn't want Eichel as they're not a "consistent playoff team". Give your forehead a knock and see if you hear echoes.


How's Buffalo doing with Eichel? Shouldn't they be a contender because they have him? What are you even trying to say. Stop trying to make it personal because your take is wrong.

Read my entire comment. Would Montreal want Eichel? Without a doubt, but they wouldn't come near to trading all of the Roster Players/Prospects/Picks that Buffalo would want.
 
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