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IS HELLEBUYCK ABOUT TO BE SNUBBED

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Date de création initiale: 29 mai 2020
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https://www.nhl.com/news/trophy-tracker-vezina/c-317031108
I seriously hope that NHL.com writers are wrong. I get that rask had better numbers but hellebuyck played better. He carried the jets into the playoffs and a lot of nights won them games that they had no business in. Rask benefitted from a solid d-core and played waayyyy less games.

If the vezina is supposed to go to the best goaltender then it should go to hellebuyck who should get some hart consideration too. Rask was good but he wasn’t the best.

Rant over

That is the order they ranked
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1181 500 000 $37 879 959 $0 $132 500 $43 620 041 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Rask, Tuukka
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
Hellebuyck, Connor
6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
G
UFA - 5
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
Bishop, Ben
4 916 667 $4 916 667 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
Binnington, Jordan
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
Merzlikins, Elvis
874 125 $874 125 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
Jarry, Tristan
675 000 $675 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
Markström, Jacob
3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
Hart, Carter
730 833 $730 833 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
Francouz, Pavel
950 000 $950 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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29 mai 2020 à 13 h 21
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29 mai 2020 à 13 h 22
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I mean it’s nhl gms voting so maybe not
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29 mai 2020 à 13 h 22
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Agreed
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29 mai 2020 à 13 h 24
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NHL writers are just plain stupid, they didn't even have Panarin in the top 3 for Hart when he or Hellebuyck should win LMAO. Hellebuyck only had three points so that means he got like 1 3rd place vote, what a joke.
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29 mai 2020 à 13 h 26
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As much as I want Rask to win, he should be 2nd and Hellebuyck 1st. It's not only about games, Hellebuyck was better.

But won't complain if he wins
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29 mai 2020 à 13 h 28
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Agreed, but unfortunately it'll probably happen. Boston having the best record means a lot to these voters. It's why Vasi won it last year despite having the 7th best SV% among starters in the NHL. Like...shouldn't he be at least top 5 in order to win the Vezina?!?!
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29 mai 2020 à 13 h 33
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1265441790594813953

And your telling me this guy doesn’t even deserve the Vezina lmao
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29 mai 2020 à 13 h 34
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And they had pasta as a finalist for the hart ffs
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29 mai 2020 à 13 h 38
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NHL writers are just plain stupid, they didn't even have Panarin in the top 3 for Hart when he or Hellebuyck should win LMAO. Hellebuyck only had three points so that means he got like 1 3rd place vote, what a joke.


Yes, they don't really look 2 deep into any of their posts...
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29 mai 2020 à 13 h 40
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Yes, they don't really look 2 deep into any of their posts...


It's just sad that the NHL is so far behind every other sport in terms of analytics that the point leader automatically=Hart, the most wins= Vezina, and the most points for a Dman=Norris. They are literally going AGAINST what the trophy is supposed to mean.
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29 mai 2020 à 13 h 43
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It's just sad that the NHL is so far behind every other sport in terms of analytics that the point leader automatically=Hart, the most wins= Vezina, and the most points for a Dman=Norris. They are literally going AGAINST what the trophy is supposed to mean.


Even some of the GM's go by point productions...botteril hasn't signed anyone by advanced numbers that i can tell.
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29 mai 2020 à 13 h 46
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Even some of the GM's go by point productions...botteril hasn't signed anyone by advanced numbers that i can tell.




I mean I am not saying they all have to turn into advance stat nerds like me, but at least look at the context. For example Draisaitl has Mcdavid on his team and gets like 1/2 of his points on the power play. McDavid is also considered to be in the top 5 for the hart trophy, so how is it possible to WIN the most valuable player when you arguably aren't even the most valuable on your team.
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29 mai 2020 à 13 h 54
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I mean I am not saying they all have to turn into advance stat nerds like me, but at least look at the context. For example Draisaitl has Mcdavid on his team and gets like 1/2 of his points on the power play. McDavid is also considered to be in the top 5 for the hart trophy, so how is it possible to WIN the most valuable player when you arguably aren't even the most valuable on your team.


Ye, and don't tell me that having the best player in the world on one line not affect the level of competition that you play. Draisaitl also isn't dancing around on the ice and doing it all himself like Panarin, Eichel, and Helly are.
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29 mai 2020 à 14 h 6
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And they had pasta as a finalist for the hart ffs


bruh im an avs fan and panarin should have won the hart by a mile
29 mai 2020 à 14 h 17
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I hope not, Hellebuyck deserves it so much more
29 mai 2020 à 14 h 19
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If Hellebuyck loses the Vezina I’m going to be livid. Lmaooo he got the same amount of first places votes as Vasy. What a joke.

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerteams.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20192020&stype=2&sit=all&score=all&stdoi=g&rate=n&team=ALL&pos=S&loc=B&toi=2000&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single&draftteam=ALL

Like just take a look at that page, look at the hell Hellebuyck has been through this year.
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29 mai 2020 à 14 h 23
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Here's another article:

https://thehockeywriters.com/bruins-tuukka-rask-vezina-case-2020/

I didn't realize that the GM's voted for this award...I think that plays in Hellebuyck's favour but you never know. If he doesn't win that's gonna the biggest joke. Snubbed 2 years now.
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29 mai 2020 à 14 h 54
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Quoting: bunzy1034
NHL writers are just plain stupid, they didn't even have Panarin in the top 3 for Hart when he or Hellebuyck should win LMAO. Hellebuyck only had three points so that means he got like 1 3rd place vote, what a joke.


Quoting: bunzy1034
I mean I am not saying they all have to turn into advance stat nerds like me, but at least look at the context. For example Draisaitl has Mcdavid on his team and gets like 1/2 of his points on the power play. McDavid is also considered to be in the top 5 for the hart trophy, so how is it possible to WIN the most valuable player when you arguably aren't even the most valuable on your team.


Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
Yes, they don't really look 2 deep into any of their posts...


This year's voting has been a joke. There was a model showing that Helleybucyk had the hardest workload amongst all NHL goalies & had the best performance whereas Rask had a very easy workload overall. Anyone who watches the games would know that.

Also, Carlson is going to run away with the Norris trophy only because he put up the most points, playing on an offensively stacked team. He was average to below-average defensively. McAvoy, Pietrangelo, Theodore, Josi & even Spurgeon should be ahead of him.
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29 mai 2020 à 14 h 56
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This year's voting has been a joke. There was a model showing that Helleybucyk had the hardest workload amongst all NHL goalies & had the best performance whereas Rask had a very easy workload overall. Anyone who watches the games would know that.

Also, Carlson is going to run away with the Norris trophy only because he put up the most points, playing on an offensively stacked team. He was average to below-average defensively. McAvoy, Pietrangelo, Theodore, Josi & even Spurgeon should be ahead of him.


It's to bad that all the writers are like 50 years old+ and to naive to understand analytics because they believe their eyes never lie to them.
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29 mai 2020 à 15 h 2
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It's to bad that all the writers are like 50 years old+ and to naive to understand analytics because they believe their eyes never lie to them.


Plus Boston vs Winnipeg. They ain't watching Jets games, that's for sure.
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29 mai 2020 à 16 h 31
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Helle deserves it
29 mai 2020 à 16 h 56
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Ye, and don't tell me that having the best player in the world on one line not affect the level of competition that you play. Draisaitl also isn't dancing around on the ice and doing it all himself like Panarin, Eichel, and Helly are.


Disagree on Panarin. The Rangers were one of the top offensive teams in the league this year. Panarin had WAY more help than Draisaitl did.
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