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Legit offer for Eichel

Créé par: MadLin27
Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 28 mai 2020
Publié: 28 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Decent offer from the Habs, Sabres still say no?
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21 500 000 $
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  1. Caufield, Cole [Liste de réserve]
  2. Domi, Max [Droits de RFA]
  3. Suzuki, Nick
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
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1981 500 000 $71 878 809 $0 $3 350 000 $9 621 191 $
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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28 mai 2020 à 15 h 52
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Thank you
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28 mai 2020 à 16 h 1
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That’s probably the best offer I have seen that is realistic and balanced.
28 mai 2020 à 16 h 2
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Legit? Overpay you must say.
28 mai 2020 à 16 h 7
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most reasonable offer ive seen yet
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28 mai 2020 à 16 h 12
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lol Montreal would hang up. I don't care if it's Connor McDavid, you don't give up all of those assets for one player.
28 mai 2020 à 16 h 14
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Quoting: Jmcp
Legit? Overpay you must say.


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lol Montreal would hang up. I don't care if it's Connor McDavid, you don't give up all of those assets for one player.


You don't get players like that for much less.
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28 mai 2020 à 16 h 15
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You don't get players like that for much less.


I'm not going to diss Jack Eichel because you simply can't, but I'd rather trade that first and Suzuki for 2nd overall than give up all of those extra players for Eichel.
28 mai 2020 à 16 h 21
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Quoting: HabsForEver
I'm not going to diss Jack Eichel because you simply can't, but I'd rather trade that first and Suzuki for 2nd overall than give up all of those extra players for Eichel.


Fair. The point is when trading for a player like Eichel you have to overpay.
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28 mai 2020 à 16 h 24
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Fair. The point is when trading for a player like Eichel you have to overpay.


Yeah for sure
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28 mai 2020 à 16 h 35
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Fair. The point is when trading for a player like Eichel you have to overpay.


I agree, but when a franchise player leaves, it is because there is some sort of a dead-end situation (contract negociation, trade request because the teams want to rebuild, etc.)

So if Eichel leaves, it is because he and the Sabres are not on the same page. Therefore, Buffalo doesn't COMPLETELY have a full leverage here.

Take the Karlsson trade as a comparative. Karlsson is not worth as much as Eichel, but still. He was arguably a top5 D in the league when he was traded and Eichel a top 5 C in the league too. So for a massive trade like that, then you can assume there is 2-3 primary pieces. For Ott, it was the a 2020 1st and Josh Norris. The rest was complementary pieces.

So for Eichel, there is probably 2-3 primary pieces. Certainly one of KK/Caufield/Suzuki as a starter. Certainly a 1st round pick, I assume it will be in 2021 or 2022. Certainly another top quality prospect (one of Romanov, Primeau or Poehling perhaps?). And for sure a roster player and complementary pieces like 2nd rd and all.

To be realistic, a trade needs to have a slighty chance to happen, and for that, you need to put a context with it, and take similar trades as a reference.
28 mai 2020 à 16 h 42
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I agree, but when a franchise player leaves, it is because there is some sort of a dead-end situation (contract negociation, trade request because the teams want to rebuild, etc.)

So if Eichel leaves, it is because he and the Sabres are not on the same page. Therefore, Buffalo doesn't COMPLETELY have a full leverage here.

Take the Karlsson trade as a comparative. Karlsson is not worth as much as Eichel, but still. He was arguably a top5 D in the league when he was traded and Eichel a top 5 C in the league too. So for a massive trade like that, then you can assume there is 2-3 primary pieces. For Ott, it was the a 2020 1st and Josh Norris. The rest was complementary pieces.

So for Eichel, there is probably 2-3 primary pieces. Certainly one of KK/Caufield/Suzuki as a starter. Certainly a 1st round pick, I assume it will be in 2021 or 2022. Certainly another top quality prospect (one of Romanov, Primeau or Poehling perhaps?). And for sure a roster player and complementary pieces like 2nd rd and all.

To be realistic, a trade needs to have a slighty chance to happen, and for that, you need to put a context with it, and take similar trades as a reference.


I appreciate that rationale. You make some fair points. I know you already acknowledged that Eichel has more value than EK, but I would emphasize that Eichels age and contract/term are another huge factor that puts Eichel in an entirely different category of value.

I could see my original trade with 1 first rounder instead of 2, but thats it. Even without leverage, Eichel gets you 4 key assets in my opinion.
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28 mai 2020 à 16 h 50
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Best effort yet. Looks like enough to me and addresses centers for Buffalo which would be required for any Eichel trade. Nice work. Sabres hit reset and accept. Not the worst idea. Eichel will be gone in 5 years anyway. Might have a half-competent GM by then.
28 mai 2020 à 17 h 25
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Hey, a real offer. Well done.
28 mai 2020 à 17 h 28
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I agree this trade is fair but parting with both Caufield and Suzuki is something I don't think the Habs would do. Substitute Suzuki with Drouin and I would do it.
 
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