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Cirelli Offer Sheet and Lehner Signing

Créé par: OldNYIfan
Équipe: 2020-21 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 22 mai 2020
Publié: 27 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Fooling around with some spin-offs from a very good idea suggested by Tansor.

2020 draft picks:
11th overall: C Anton Lundell
25th overall: C Hendrix LaPierre (falls due to injury history even though they aren't concussions)
42nd overall: LD Yan Kuznetsov
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
56 200 000 $
32 775 000 $
2900 000 $
2850 000 $
2800 000 $
1700 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
67 000 000 $
31 750 000 $
31 750 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Cirelli, Anthony6 200 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021
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  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
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  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (WSH)
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MIN
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (FLA)
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785 000 $785 000 $
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27 mai 2020 à 15 h 51
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I would love a Wild Lehner jersey TBH
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27 mai 2020 à 16 h 3
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Greenway is that cheap!!????

So would you do 1 for 1 Kerfoot for Greenway?
27 mai 2020 à 16 h 6
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Greenway is that cheap!!????

So would you do 1 for 1 Kerfoot for Greenway?


That would be a decent trade if MN can't get a center somewhere else.
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27 mai 2020 à 16 h 7
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Doubt Cirelli takes anything for less then $7 million per. And Lehner will be looking at a legit contending team and Minnesota isn't one yet.
27 mai 2020 à 16 h 9
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Why are you dumping Greenway and Donato, just to sign a couple of other guys for about the same cap hits?

I like Lehner but I really don't want him for $7m/yr.
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27 mai 2020 à 16 h 10
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That would be a decent trade if MN can't get a center somewhere else.


How much will Greenway want to sign for?
27 mai 2020 à 16 h 19
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How much will Greenway want to sign for?


$1.5m-$3m bridge deal I'm guessing. Somewhere around what JEE, Donato, and Fiala signed for last offseason.

He's not a guy I would want to trade, but MN is log-jammed at the LW position. I'd prefer it be Donato traded rather than Greenway.
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27 mai 2020 à 16 h 50
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7 million for Lehner might a tad high, my opinon roll with Stalock and KK.


And gotta bring Soucy, will regret it if you dont.
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27 mai 2020 à 17 h 10
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$1.5m-$3m bridge deal I'm guessing. Somewhere around what JEE, Donato, and Fiala signed for last offseason.

He's not a guy I would want to trade, but MN is log-jammed at the LW position. I'd prefer it be Donato traded rather than Greenway.


Would much rather take Greenway. Any other small pieces you'd want to make the trade fair?
27 mai 2020 à 17 h 20
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Doubt Cirelli takes anything for less then $7 million per. And Lehner will be looking at a legit contending team and Minnesota isn't one yet.


If it wasn't for bad goaltending Wild would have been a contender.
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27 mai 2020 à 17 h 26
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Greenway is that cheap!!????

So would you do 1 for 1 Kerfoot for Greenway?


No, unless Kerfoot was the only alternative at #2C. The reason I'm moving Greenway is to loosen the logjam of left-handed forwards.
27 mai 2020 à 17 h 32
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Why are you dumping Greenway and Donato, just to sign a couple of other guys for about the same cap hits?


Because I'm gaining two third-round draft picks, at what I think is no on-ice downgrade.

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I like Lehner but I really don't want him for $7m/yr.


If he gets the Wild to the playoffs, and then wins a series or two, he's well worth the cost. You don't really think you're getting there with Dubnyk or Stalock, do you?

Complaining about Lehner's salary or cap hit is like getting to marry Scarlett Johansen and then whining about the cost of the wedding.
27 mai 2020 à 17 h 34
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7 million for Lehner might a tad high, my opinion is roll with Stalock and KK.

And gotta bring Soucy, will regret it if you don't.


Yeah, overlooking Soucy was a mistake. That may cause me to rethink the whole economic scheme.
27 mai 2020 à 17 h 35
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Doubt Cirelli takes anything for less then $7 million per. And Lehner will be looking at a legit contending team and Minnesota isn't one yet.


Pure speculation on both counts.
27 mai 2020 à 17 h 37
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$1.5m-$3m bridge deal I'm guessing. Somewhere around what JEE, Donato, and Fiala signed for last offseason.

He's not a guy I would want to trade, but MN is log-jammed at the LW position. I'd prefer it be Donato traded rather than Greenway.


I'd happily trade Donato for a fourth rather than Greenway for a third, you're absolutely right there. But this strategy more or less requires me to move both.
27 mai 2020 à 18 h 15
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No, unless Kerfoot was the only alternative at #2C. The reason I'm moving Greenway is to loosen the logjam of left-handed forwards.


So you'd be fine doing it for a 3rd?

We can a 3rd or 2 for Kerfoot so maybe it's a 3-way trade with EDM.

To EDM: Kerfoot
From EDM: 3rd, 4th

To MIN: 3rd
From MIN: Greenway

To TOR: Greenway, 4th
From TOR: Kerfoot
27 mai 2020 à 18 h 32
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So you'd be fine doing it for a 3rd?

We can a 3rd or 2 for Kerfoot so maybe it's a 3-way trade with EDM.

To EDM: Kerfoot
From EDM: 3rd, 4th

To MIN: 3rd
From MIN: Greenway

To TOR: Greenway, 4th
From TOR: Kerfoot


Since Edmonton is getting Kerfoot and Toronto is getting Greenway, then the 3rds (if not all three picks) should be going to Minnesota.
27 mai 2020 à 18 h 45
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Since Edmonton is getting Kerfoot and Toronto is getting Greenway, then the 3rds (if not all three picks) should be going to Minnesota.


The 3rd from Edmonton is going to Minny. However Kerfoot is worth slightly more then a 3rd so TOR gets a 4th.

So Minny gets a 3rd for Greenway, like suggested in this post.
27 mai 2020 à 18 h 56
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Because I'm gaining two third-round draft picks, at what I think is no on-ice downgrade.

If he gets the Wild to the playoffs, and then wins a series or two, he's well worth the cost. You don't really think you're getting there with Dubnyk or Stalock, do you?

Complaining about Lehner's salary or cap hit is like getting to marry Scarlett Johansen and then whining about the cost of the wedding.


I'd rather just keep the guys we have than try and bring in replacements for the same cost. Plus the guys we have still have upside and the guys you brought in are what they are as players. I'll take the gamble on the younger guys upside over a couple of future 3rd rounders, who odds are become AHL players.

I don't think Dub or Stalock is taking the team anywhere, but I'm willing to gamble on the young goalies already in the system. Overpaying the goalie position put the team on the fast track to cap hell. Even looking back at the Wild's recent history Dub had a couple of Veznia quality seasons and that got them nowhere in the Playoffs.

Lehner could probably get $7m on the open market, but that's not a deal I would sign him for.
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27 mai 2020 à 19 h 3
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I'd rather just keep the guys we have than try and bring in replacements for the same cost. Plus the guys we have still have upside and the guys you brought in are what they are as players. I'll take the gamble on the younger guys upside over a couple of future 3rd rounders, who odds are become AHL players.

I don't think Dub or Stalock is taking the team anywhere, but I'm willing to gamble on the young goalies already in the system. Overpaying the goalie position put the team on the fast track to cap hell. Even looking back at the Wild's recent history Dub had a couple of Veznia quality seasons and that got them nowhere in the Playoffs.

Lehner could probably get $7m on the open market, but that's not a deal I would sign him for.


Fair enough. That's certainly a valid position.
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The 3rd from Edmonton is going to Minny. However Kerfoot is worth slightly more then a 3rd so TOR gets a 4th.

So Minny gets a 3rd for Greenway, like suggested in this post.


Not all thirds are the same. The reason why Greenway goes to Ottawa is that the third is the 33rd overall. Edmonton's third is probably non-existent, but if it still belonged to the Oilers would be about 52nd overall.
27 mai 2020 à 19 h 13
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Fair enough. That's certainly a valid position.


I like Lehner. If you could get him for $5m x (up to) 4 deal it would be a great signing. Heck a 1 year deal (like he signed last year with CHI) would be great for MN, but that's unlikely.
27 mai 2020 à 19 h 14
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Not all thirds are the same. The reason why Greenway goes to Ottawa is that the third is the 33rd overall. Edmonton's third is probably non-existent, but if it still belonged to the Oilers would be about 52nd overall.


So if you got the 4th would it be fine?
27 mai 2020 à 19 h 14
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Not all thirds are the same. The reason why Greenway goes to Ottawa is that the third is the 33rd overall. Edmonton's third is probably non-existent, but if it still belonged to the Oilers would be about 52nd overall.


OTT's 3rd would be 63, not 33.
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27 mai 2020 à 19 h 20
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OTT's 3rd would be 63, not 33.


Yeah, I was 31 off on both. Large numbers confuse me.
 
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