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Signing Hamonic

Créé par: castbridge2020
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 26 mai 2020
Publié: 26 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
21 750 000 $
32 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
43 750 000 $
11 000 000 $
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TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
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TOR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MIN)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
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2181 500 000 $80 813 117 $0 $0 $686 883 $
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26 mai 2020 à 20 h 43
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Not enough value for Kapanen imo. Also no way SDA is NHL ready.
26 mai 2020 à 20 h 48
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Why the pay-cut for TH?
TML are one of the, if not the, richest franchises in the league.
* Barrie got ran out of town with his tail between his legs (like Gardner, Kaberle, Murph) before him. You honestly think Hamonic wants to be carved into tiny pieces for a pay cut...nadda!
26 mai 2020 à 21 h 1
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Quoting: firezfurx
Not enough value for Kapanen imo. Also no way SDA is NHL ready.


How much is a guy 6 years removed from his draft year with 41 career goals worth?
26 mai 2020 à 21 h 2
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It's probably a fair price for Kapanen, it's just to the wrong team. MN is stacked for wings already.
26 mai 2020 à 21 h 13
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
How much is a guy 6 years removed from his draft year with 41 career goals worth?


Quoting: wabit
It's probably a fair price for Kapanen, it's just to the wrong team. MN is stacked for wings already.


Thats really isn't a good way of evaluating a players value... He has only played 2 full seasons. So it took him a little longer to become a full time player.

Ondrej Kase has 43 career goals, same draft class and he got traded for a 1st rounder and a prospect.
Kapanen has been more consistent than Kase in recent years and I would argue he is flatout better than Kase.

So no, a 2nd and a 3rd doesn't do it.
26 mai 2020 à 21 h 15
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Thats really isn't a good way of evaluating a players value... He has only played 2 full seasons. So it took him a little longer to become a full time player.

Ondrej Kase has 43 career goals, same draft class and he got traded for a 1st rounder and a prospect.
Kapanen has been more consistent than Kase in recent years and I would argue he is flatout better than Kase.

So no, a 2nd and a 3rd doesn't do it.



"Ondrej Kase has 43 career goals, same draft class and he got traded for a 1st rounder and a prospect." and DAVID BACKES...
26 mai 2020 à 21 h 19
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Thats really isn't a good way of evaluating a players value... He has only played 2 full seasons. So it took him a little longer to become a full time player.

Ondrej Kase has 43 career goals, same draft class and he got traded for a 1st rounder and a prospect.
Kapanen has been more consistent than Kase in recent years and I would argue he is flatout better than Kase.

So no, a 2nd and a 3rd doesn't do it.


David backes and maybe the last pick of the 1st round.
26 mai 2020 à 21 h 21
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
How much is a guy 6 years removed from his draft year with 41 career goals worth?


Because goals is such a great measurement of a player...

If we dont get a good RHD for him I'd rather just hold onto him. He's our best PK'er and only 23.
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26 mai 2020 à 21 h 22
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Quoting: McGruff
"Ondrej Kase has 43 career goals, same draft class and he got traded for a 1st rounder and a prospect." and DAVID BACKES...


Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
David backes and maybe the last pick of the 1st round.


Yes and Backes.. Point is I would argue Kapp is better than Kase and yes he is highly valued by Toronto, but a 2nd and 3rd just wouldn't get it done
26 mai 2020 à 21 h 24
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Because goals is such a great measurement of a player...

If we dont get a good RHD for him I'd rather just hold onto him. He's our best PK'er and only 23.


I never said you need to trade him, just that he isnt as valuable, especially at his salary as leafs fans imagine
26 mai 2020 à 21 h 29
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I never said you need to trade him, just that he isnt as valuable, especially at his salary as leafs fans imagine


Uhhh 3.1m?? He's considerably better then JG Pageau who just signed for 5m x 6yrs. His salary is really good, especially considering he's an RFA at the end of it.
26 mai 2020 à 21 h 36
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Quoting: MadLin27
Yes and Backes.. Point is I would argue Kapp is better than Kase and yes he is highly valued by Toronto, but a 2nd and 3rd just wouldn't get it done


Better?
Hmmmmm, I say equal is a better observation...
KK (TML) = 202GP_41G_49A_90Pts for US$3.2M per at 23 yrs old signed to 21-22
OK (ANA) = 204GP_43G_54A_97Pts for US$2.6M per at 24 yrs old signed to 20-21 - he was injured in BOS so his #'s are 99% w/ a crummy Duck squad...

The value to TML does not matter 1-Iota to the GM on the other side of the table; that GM wants player-X at his/her value - or no deal...
26 mai 2020 à 21 h 41
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no way toronto is trading kappy
26 mai 2020 à 21 h 44
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Uhhh 3.1m?? He's considerably better then JG Pageau who just signed for 5m x 6yrs. His salary is really good, especially considering he's an RFA at the end of it.


I mean, no he's not
26 mai 2020 à 21 h 54
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I mean, no he's not


JGP last year ppg: 0.307
Kapanen last year ppg: 0.56

JGP this year ppg: 0.63
Kapanen this year ppg: 0.52

Main takeaway: JGP had one good season while Kapanen is more consistent.

JGP SKATR score this year: 54
Kapanen SKATR score this year: 57

Again close, but Kapanen is still the superior player. Also note last year JGP was only a 39.

JGP PK score: 28
Kapanen PK score: 58

Kapanen is clearly the better Penalty Killer.

JGP On-ice CF% percentile: 21
Kapanen On-ice CF% percentile: 70

Again not even close. When Kapanen is on the ice he is much more impactful and better at moving the puck then JGP.

Also important to note that Kapanen is 4 yrs younger.
26 mai 2020 à 21 h 57
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Because goals is such a great measurement of a player...

If we dont get a good RHD for him I'd rather just hold onto him. He's our best PK'er and only 23.


This is the correct move for Tor. He's a guy they need to keep. On a fair/good contract, young, plays a nice 2-way game, can play up in the lineup, and adds scoring.
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26 mai 2020 à 22 h 26
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Quoting: firezfurx
JGP last year ppg: 0.307
Kapanen last year ppg: 0.56

JGP this year ppg: 0.63
Kapanen this year ppg: 0.52

Main takeaway: JGP had one good season while Kapanen is more consistent.

JGP SKATR score this year: 54
Kapanen SKATR score this year: 57

Again close, but Kapanen is still the superior player. Also note last year JGP was only a 39.

JGP PK score: 28
Kapanen PK score: 58

Kapanen is clearly the better Penalty Killer.

JGP On-ice CF% percentile: 21
Kapanen On-ice CF% percentile: 70

Again not even close. When Kapanen is on the ice he is much more impactful and better at moving the puck then JGP.

Also important to note that Kapanen is 4 yrs younger.


One guy plays on a playoff team with superstars, another guy played in ottawa.

Pageau is also a center
26 mai 2020 à 22 h 35
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
One guy plays on a playoff team with superstars, another guy played in ottawa.

Pageau is also a center


SKATR scores ARE TEAMMATE RELATIVE!!! Also, I'd rather have Anthony Duclair and Connor Brown on my line then Kerfoot and Johnsson. Not by much, but I still would. And I understand being a C is important, but 2m important?
 
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