Only way Cirelli and Sergachev get traded

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Créé par: TampaBayFan94

Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay

Date de création initiale: 26 mai 2020

Publié: 26 mai 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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For those who you that think a NTC means anything you’re wrong. If a player gets asked to waive it they will, they’re not going to stay on a team that wants to trade them. They will work it out and give a team list to get trades to and waive it.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Cernak, Erik	2	2 000 000 $
Stephens, Mitchell	2	1 000 000 $
Verhaeghe, Carter	1	1 000 000 $
Volkov, Alexander	1	900 000 $
Yan, Dennis	1	900 000 $
Masin, Dominik	1	900 000 $
Thomas, Ben	1	900 000 $
Stephens, Devante	1	900 000 $
Colton, Ross	1	900 000 $
Smith, Gemel	1	900 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Shattenkirk, Kevin	3	2 750 000 $
Conacher, Cory	2	800 000 $
Gaunce, Cameron	2	800 000 $
Wedgewood, Scott	2	800 000 $
Martin, Spencer	2	800 000 $
Rutta, Jan	1	1 100 000 $
Schenn, Luke	1	875 000 $
Maroon, Patrick	1	950 000 $

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Détails additionnels:

Juulien is going to make an offer sheet and would more than likely make this swap because of Tampa’s need for offense and Montreal’s need for D

MTL

Gourde, Yanni
Sergachev, Mikhail [Droits de RFA]

TBL

Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (ANA)

ANA

Coburn, Braydon

TBL

Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CGY)

CGY

Johnson, Tyler
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TBL)

Détails additionnels:

Could still put up 30 goals

Rachats de contrats

Vincent Lecavalier: 0 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

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TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	83 500 000 $	78 475 000 $	0 $	0 $	5 025 000 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Palat, Ondrej 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AG, AD NTC UFA - 2	Stamkos, Steven 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 4	Kucherov, Nikita 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 7
Drouin, Jonathan 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	Point, Brayden 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2	Coleman, Blake 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Killorn, Alex 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 3	Stephens, Mitchell 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ C UFA - 2	Verhaeghe, Carter 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG UFA - 2
Maroon, Patrick 950 000 $950 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Paquette, Cédric 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1
		Goodrow, Barclay 925 000 $925 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hedman, Victor 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 5	Rutta, Jan 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Vasilevskiy, Andrei 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ G UFA - 8
Shattenkirk, Kevin 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Dumba, Matt 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD UFA - 3	McElhinney, Curtis 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ G UFA - 1
Chiarot, Ben 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Cernak, Erik 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DD UFA - 3

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Schenn, Luke 875 000 $875 000 $ DD UFA - 1

26 mai 2020 à 13 h 40

Trickster

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Time will tell but usually money talks and bull**** walks.

26 mai 2020 à 13 h 40

Byrr

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Quoting: TampaBayFan94

If a player gets asked to waive it they will, they’re not going to stay on a team that wants to trade them.

There are lots of examples of this not being correct. You have a good team that players want to come play for. The downside of that is they arnt going to be willing to leave so easily.

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26 mai 2020 à 13 h 42

TampaBayFan94

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Quoting: Byrr

There are lots of examples of this not being correct. You have a good team that players want to come play for. The downside of that is they arnt going to be willing to leave so easily.

Read any article on waiving NTC Callahan Did it etc... they’re going to do it. They modify they’re NTC to submit a team list

26 mai 2020 à 13 h 45

Barilko14

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1. I guess you are too young to remember the Muskoka 5?

2. It's not just about a player waiving their NTC, it's about them having a say where they want to go. The more restrictions a team has in moving a player the harder it becomes to move that player. No guarantee teams on the "OK" list have interest or capspace to acquire that player.

3. This is real life for the players, if Tampa is where they want to live the rest of their life, they're family is rooted there, etc. it's no automatic they are willing to waive/help the team move them.

4. I'm thinking you'd be surprised by the amount of trades that get vetoed by a player.

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26 mai 2020 à 13 h 46

TampaBayFan94

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Quoting: Barilko14

1. I guess you are too young to remember the Muskoka 5?

2. It's not just about a player waiving their NTC, it's about them having a say where they want to go. The more restrictions a team has in moving a player the harder it becomes to move that player. No guarantee teams on the "OK" list have interest or capspace to acquire that player.

3. This is real life for the players, if Tampa is where they want to live the rest of their life, they're family is rooted there, etc. it's no automatic they are willing to waive/help them team move them.

4. I'm thinking you'd be surprised by the amount of trades that get vetoed by a player.

You must be too old to see that hockey is an entirely different game now. Facts are if they ask them to waive it they will. Don’t analyze everything in your lift so much

26 mai 2020 à 13 h 50

Barilko14

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Quoting: TampaBayFan94

You must be too old to see that hockey is an entirely different game now. Facts are if they ask them to waive it they will. Don’t analyze everything in your lift so much

Kind of funny you use the word facts, when there is actual proof to show your wrong. If players didn't want some say on their future they wouldn't bother with trade/movement clauses.

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26 mai 2020 à 13 h 57

Silverbug

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A lot of these players took discounts to play in TBL because of the tax benefits.... They signed a long term contract for security and be able to settle down with family. Its not their fault TBL cap was miss managed. They negotiated those clauses for a reason. A player may waive on the last year of a long term contract to go after the cup but not a year or two after signing.

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26 mai 2020 à 14 h 5

bunzy1034

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Teams know what kind of situation you guys are in, especially the eastern teams here, they're not going to help you out by taking your overpaid players

26 mai 2020 à 14 h 34

justaBoss

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Aside from the fact that you're wrong regarding the NTCs, those trades are absolutely terrible for TB.

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26 mai 2020 à 15 h 18

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Dooobas

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I really doubt anyone is going to help Tampa unless they're getting a bargain. The return will be good but it'll be way below market value because Tampa is making a trade to keep their core together, not to better their team. They're in a vulnerable position imo. This off-season is going to be interesting.

26 mai 2020 à 15 h 36

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Richard88

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You really think Johnson is going to waive his NTC so he can uproot his family and move to...... Calgary? Not to mention that tax difference on top of the escrow next season. I don't see it.

29 mai 2020 à 15 h 5

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Quoting: Barilko14

Kind of funny you use the word facts, when there is actual proof to show your wrong. If players didn't want some say on their future they wouldn't bother with trade/movement clauses.

Any yet somehow you ignore the fact that your opinion is wrong 😂

29 mai 2020 à 15 h 6

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TampaBayFan94

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Quoting: Barilko14

Kind of funny you use the word facts, when there is actual proof to show your wrong. If players didn't want some say on their future they wouldn't bother with trade/movement clauses.

You’re one of those people who said Stamkos will never sign for lower than 10 million too haha

29 mai 2020 à 15 h 42

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Barilko14

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Quoting: TampaBayFan94

Any yet somehow you ignore the fact that your opinion is wrong 😂

I'm not really sure you are fully aware what the difference is between facts and opinions.

I guess as long as you believe something it must be true, so you do you.

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