Wow. I doubt stutzel is available at 4

In a good way?

Forget it he's gone at 2 IMO

Depends on how the lottery is in the end. I could see Detroit picking Stutzle if they don’t get Lafreniere, but a team like Ottawa for example I don’t think they will pick him especially that they are so high on Byfield, Drysdale, and Rossi.

If the reported June 26th date for the Lottery is true, that to me suggests that the League would be moving forward with the assumption that only the 7 non playoff teams would be in the lottery.

To me, that's the most fair option. 24 teams get to play for a shot at the Stanley cup, so why should 8 of those teams get to also be lottery teams?

If they are going with 24 teams then why wait for the lottery? They want a month for teams to prepare meaning a July 26 draft at the earliest. Could this mean that u have the play in done by the 26 of June and have all eliminated teams in a normal lottery?

1OA won’t be traded by Detroit if they’re lucky enough to get it. Can someone show me a source that has Yzerman or Draper saying they have Stutzle this highly regarded?

The lottery date being reported is June 26th. Not July. If that were the case, it seems likely that the Eliminated teams in the 24 team play in would not be in the lottery. There's no possible way the league could start back up and finish the entire Play-In round in one month.

Obviously there's nothing confirmed, so there's no reason to be saying anything with too much confidence, but If you take the report at face value, the most logical conclusion would be a 7 team lottery.

I said July draft.
U give 2&1/2 weeks for warmup and 1&1/2 weeks for a best 3 out of 5. It’s not just cuz I’m a Habs fan. It’s stupid that mtl and Chicago get in because of 24 teams and get swept and not get a shot at top 3, while buffalo was slightly worse and do

People need to remember that the 24 team format has been approved by league and players nothing more, as long as the different health organisations across north america are prohibiting pro sports nothing's happening. The league may very well go right to the draft if not allowed to play up to a certain date.
Now that we're already seeing a second peak at some places it doesn't look good for the league because we may very well go back to confinement if things are getting out of hand.

Also note that the "First round" is actually a wild card round and the league made it clear that it shouldn't be advertised as a playoff round, maybe they've done this so that eliminated teams from that wildcard round would go back into the lottery. Not much informations has been shared from the league about the lottery yet other than the idea of bringing back the old format but that hasn't been through any kind of vote yet.

Sure if there's a July Lottery, that's a different scenario, but that really has nothing to do with what I was talking about. I haven't seen any mention of a July Lottery. We still don't know when the return will be, so setting a date for the lottery in advance of that makes no sense in a losers in lottery scenario.

And I don't see why they should be involved in the lottery. They shouldn't get to have it both ways. They get to play for a shot at the cup, to me that's the playoffs. Even though it's a new format, it's still the post season, and teams that lose in the post season aren't lottery teams. I think that's a meaningful distinction.

I think it's a raw deal for a team like Chicago or Montreal who have no business in playoff hockey, but also there's an easy solution for them. Win.

My point is clear. It’s not official about a JUNE lottery, but why announce it as a month from tomorrow. As the guy above said it’s not the playoffs. It’s a round to enter the playoffs. Let’s say they went with 30 teams because Detroit is the only eliminated team, should Ottawa not have a shot at one because they had a shot at the cup?

I'm not saying it is a confirmed date. It's the only date I've seen reported thus far, and it was worth discussing.

Also a 30 team play in is an entirely different hypothetical scenario. Detroit is the only team that mathematically could not have made the playoffs in a full season at the time of stoppage. In that case, I would suggest that a 15 team lottery would be significantly more fair than in the 24 team format. In a 30 team format, every team that was technically still in the playoff hunt receives a fair chance at playoff hockey, and the losing teams would rightly deserve a chance at a lottery. It's fair to Detroit because they already were out of the playoffs, and it's fair for the losing teams because they all had the same chance as the winning teams.

The difference between that and the 24 team format is that in the 24 team format you have to draw the cutoff, and to me as soon as you make the distinction between teams who get to continue playing hockey and teams who don't, that's the same as making the distinction between lottery and non lottery teams

Just because Detroit is a last place team doesn't mean you can troll them.
They aren't giving up 1OA.

I think the owners said they don't want a June draft.
Teams have cap issues. They need to make trades. The draft is the best time to do that.
You can't do trades if teams are playing for the cup.

Not talking about the draft, just the lottery. Have the draft when the playoffs are done, but if you're having the lottery in June, to me that says that you aren't having the 8 losing teams from the play in, because there's no time to start and finish the play in with all they have left to do before returning. Not having those teams is the more fair option to me.

As an aside, while I think there were plenty of reasons why a June draft was a bad idea, I think the whole trade aspect was slightly overblown. The vast majority of draft day deals are pick for pick deals. I think it would have been doable for deals to get done on the day and have them processed after the season ended. It would have been fun to hypothetically see someone win the cup after having been traded from that team.

Please show mW one inatancw where Wings like anyone other than Laffy 1st overall?

My god. Yzerman picked one Germain last year and now he is only picking players from Germany. Again I live in Michigan and have hears nothing about this supposed love for Stutzle. If it comes from Montreal media then I give it zero credibility.

Craig Button and Bob MacKenzie

Guess I was right

This is speculation from them.

"Steve Yzerman is not reluctant to select a player he feels is the best for his team," said TSN analyst and ex-NHL general manager Craig Button, a former Ann Arbor resident who has been featured on The Detroit News' NHL Draft preview show the past two seasons. "Wouldn't surprise me if he took Stutzle first overall."

Not surprising that the League made the wrong decision

To me it’s the right one. All 15 that miss the playoffs have a shot at 1 just like every year. Only difference is a mini play in

The mini play in is what makes it unfair though. 8 teams getting to double dip with chances at both the Cup and the Lottery is not fair.

How does it matter. If u lose the play in u weren’t one of the final 16 just like every year

Because if there's no distinction between the teams who were allowed into the play in and lost, and the non playoff teams, those six teams should have been in the play in too.

At the very least, the lottery odds should have been skewed further in favor of the 7 non playoff teams.