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Questionable Montreal Trade

Créé par: TheDime99
Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 19 mai 2020
Publié: 25 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
65 500 000 $
2800 000 $
21 250 000 $
32 000 000 $
31 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Alzner, Karl
  2. Danault, Phillip
  3. Mete, Victor [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
MTL
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar [Droits de RFA]
  2. Trouba, Jacob
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Ignore the fact that Trouba doesn't want to go to Canada, trying to balance it out value wise.
2.
NYR
  1. Niku, Sami [Droits de RFA]
WPG
  1. Howden, Brett
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (DAL)
3.
NYR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Strome, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
Rachats de contrats
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de NYR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CGY
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Logo de NSH
Logo de VAN
2021
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de BUF
Logo de NYR
Logo de OTT
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
2022
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Logo de NYR
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $72 558 133 $0 $8 062 500 $8 941 867 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Rangers de New York
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 7
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
800 000 $800 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
G
UFA - 1
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $
DD
RFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Rangers de New York
4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
DG/DD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 700 000 $5 700 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
730 000 $730 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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25 mai 2020 à 12 h 54
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In what world is this helping NYR

HEEEEEEEEEELL NO
25 mai 2020 à 12 h 55
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Since Trouba has a NMC kicking in when the offseason hits and he didnt want to be in Canada bc of his wife's career...dont see how this timing works to get him to Montreal before he blocks that trade
25 mai 2020 à 12 h 56
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MTL declines big time
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25 mai 2020 à 13 h 1
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Well the easiest thing would be Trouba for Domi. And that would be it....Also Rangers decline that Howden deal...
25 mai 2020 à 13 h 1
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MTL declines big time


HAHA no we decline... easily. Alzner has negative value.

Mete+2nd=/=Georgiev+3rd
Danault doesn't compensate for Alzner's negative value to get Trouba. Try again
25 mai 2020 à 13 h 2
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Well the easiest thing would be Trouba for Domi. And that would be it....Also Rangers decline that Howden deal...


Then again I don't see how Domi is a fit, Chytil would be stuck on the 3rd line and that's not good for his development
25 mai 2020 à 13 h 3
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HAHA no we decline... easily. Alzner has negative value.

Mete+2nd=/=Georgiev+3rd
Danault doesn't compensate for Alzner's negative value to get Trouba. Try again


Hate to break it to you but Georgiev doesn't have as much value as you think. He's worth a mid-high second, nothing more.
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25 mai 2020 à 13 h 4
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Hate to break it to you but Georgiev doesn't have as much value as you think. He's worth a mid-high second, nothing more.


Nope. Better numbers than Andersen and other very good goalies this season and last one, with one of the worst defensive structures in the league (looking at you Smith, Staal and Ruff)

Plus we're not moving him if it means not getting a LD. We desperately need those, Smith and Staal are pylons
25 mai 2020 à 13 h 10
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
HAHA no we decline... easily. Alzner has negative value.

Mete+2nd=/=Georgiev+3rd
Danault doesn't compensate for Alzner's negative value to get Trouba. Try again


Alzner's contract is bad but so is Trouba's. 8m/year until 25-26 with NTC ... We can just keep Alzner for 2 more years and deal Danault for more valuable assets lol
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25 mai 2020 à 13 h 12
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Danault is one of the better two-way centers in the league. As bad as Alzners deal is Trouba's deal is also pretty rough.
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25 mai 2020 à 13 h 12
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Nope. Better numbers than Andersen and other very good goalies this season and last one, with one of the worst defensive structures in the league (looking at you Smith, Staal and Ruff)

Plus we're not moving him if it means not getting a LD. We desperately need those, Smith and Staal are pylons


Andersen played a lot more games and we had rookies playing the second half of the season because Reilly got injured. Plus his GAA is lower because NYR gives up a lot of shots from the outside.

If you want to get a big return on a goalie Shesterkin's the guy you're gonna have to move. The fact Shesterkin got a 0.932 sv% brings down Georgiev's value because clearly the defence isn't that bad.

Staal will be very hard to move with NMC.
25 mai 2020 à 13 h 12
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Alzner's contract is bad but so is Trouba's. 8m/year until 25-26 with NTC ... We can just keep Alzner for 2 more years and deal Danault for more valuable assets lol


1-Trouba was very good for us defensively this year... his offense obviously dropped tho... he's worth 7mil, not massively overpaid
2-just keep Danault, he's a very good 2 way guy
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25 mai 2020 à 13 h 12
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
Then again I don't see how Domi is a fit, Chytil would be stuck on the 3rd line and that's not good for his development


yeah don't disagree. But if you're going 1 for 1 player wise, it makes the most sense. Otherwise, you'd do something like 2 2nds + Lehkonen (since Montreal doesn't have a late 1st)
25 mai 2020 à 13 h 13
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Andersen played a lot more games and we had rookies playing the second half of the season because Reilly got injured. Plus his GAA is lower because NYR gives up a lot of shots from the outside.

If you want to get a big return on a goalie Shesterkin's the guy you're gonna have to move. The fact Shesterkin got a 0.932 sv% brings down Georgiev's value because clearly the defence isn't that bad.

Staal will be very hard to move with NMC.


No what it shows is that HOLY MOLY SHESTERKIN IS A GOD AMONG MORTALS... simple as that. He'a far ahead of Georgie
25 mai 2020 à 13 h 14
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Yeah sorry to burst your bubble, But Montreal would be the last Canadian team that Trouba would agree to waive for. Montreal needs LD help not RD help like Trouba. With his future wife becoming a DR in New York City, There's noway he'd agree to leave there to go to Montreal.
25 mai 2020 à 13 h 17
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Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
1-Trouba was very good for us defensively this year... his offense obviously dropped tho... he's worth 7mil, not massively overpaid
2-just keep Danault, he's a very good 2 way guy


Like Trouba is good but I dont think it would be beneficial for MTL to be stuck with another huge contract, also im pretty sure Bergevin has not much interest in Georgiev considering were stuck with Price for like 7 years and Primeau is coming up "soon"
25 mai 2020 à 13 h 19
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Like Trouba is good but I dont think it would be beneficial for MTL to be stuck with another huge contract, also im pretty sure Bergevin has not much interest in Georgiev considering were stuck with Price for like 7 years and Primeau is coming up "soon"


No exactly. MTL and NYR aren't good trading partners, both have ****ty D structures, both need LD-men...
25 mai 2020 à 13 h 23
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No way. We’re not interested in Georgiev, all we need is a backup for 1-2 years until Primeau is ready. Phillip Danault is untouchable, we wouldn’t trade him alone for that package. And while Alzner has negative value, there’s no need to trade him, since we can just buy him out and his cap hit will be significantly better.
25 mai 2020 à 13 h 49
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No way. We’re not interested in Georgiev, all we need is a backup for 1-2 years until Primeau is ready. Phillip Danault is untouchable, we wouldn’t trade him alone for that package. And while Alzner has negative value, there’s no need to trade him, since we can just buy him out and his cap hit will be significantly better.


I would love to see Trouba in MTL... so what about Domi, Mete for Trouba, Anderson?
25 mai 2020 à 14 h 55
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I mean this doesn't make sense in a lot of ways for both teams...
25 mai 2020 à 15 h 4
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HAHA no we decline... easily. Alzner has negative value.

Mete+2nd=/=Georgiev+3rd
Danault doesn't compensate for Alzner's negative value to get Trouba. Try again


You know that both teams fanbase can decline, right? A team may not like the value and the other has their needs not filled. It happens. It's not a competition of who dislike a trade the most.
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25 mai 2020 à 17 h 15
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Why would Montreal do this trade? It's pretty terrible for both teams
 
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