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RNH to MIN JP to COL

Créé par: ItWasIn
Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 24 mai 2020
Publié: 24 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
13 000 000 $
21 500 000 $
22 500 000 $
12 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Smith, Zack
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
CHI
  1. Russell, Kris
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
2.
EDM
  1. Fiala, Kevin
  2. Hartman, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
If RNH has another great season he may price himself out of EDM, especially in a league starved for C's. Fiala while not a C gives the Oilers a high end winger, at half of RNH's price for this year, and his raise as an RFA would be cheaper than RNH as a UFA
3.
EDM
  1. Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]
COL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Liste de réserve]
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2020
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2021
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Logo de MTL
2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 556 032 $341 534 $730 000 $943 968 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance230 000 $$230K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
875 000 $875 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
915 000 $915 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
RFA - 3
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1

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24 mai 2020 à 19 h 14
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Like it a lot
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24 mai 2020 à 19 h 25
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Not a bad look.
24 mai 2020 à 19 h 36
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i don't think Minny bites this if Nuge doesn't come with an extension
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24 mai 2020 à 19 h 40
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Wild aren't trading Fiala
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24 mai 2020 à 19 h 54
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If you want Fiala you will have to do better than that.
24 mai 2020 à 20 h 39
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Fiala was like a top 15 winger for the second half of the season. Wild probably dont even do Fiala for RNH 1 for 1, they'd rather keep Fiala and hope he continues that high level of play
24 mai 2020 à 20 h 55
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add a few picks to the rnh trade
i dont think colorado does this
24 mai 2020 à 21 h 50
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RNH has been a 60+ point player for 3 straight years and a strong two-way centre for the oilers. You'd need to do more to that for that trade to go through cause the oilers can find an easier way to dump chiasson if need be and a 50ish point guy having 1 good year + hartman would never get that done.

Regardless though, I think that nuge will be a career oilers at this point and if the oilers want to be a contending team for the next few years they will do whatever it takes to keep him cause centre depth wins cups. Only way nuge would get dealt is if Holland was gifted a hugely one-sided offer that cannot be refused.

As for the Jost trade, the key pieces are there. Its just more of moving a pick here or there to get that done.
24 mai 2020 à 22 h 21
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RNH has been a 60+ point player for 3 straight years and a strong two-way centre for the oilers. You'd need to do more to that for that trade to go through cause the oilers can find an easier way to dump chiasson if need be and a 50ish point guy having 1 good year + hartman would never get that done.

Regardless though, I think that nuge will be a career oilers at this point and if the oilers want to be a contending team for the next few years they will do whatever it takes to keep him cause centre depth wins cups. Only way nuge would get dealt is if Holland was gifted a hugely one-sided offer that cannot be refused.

As for the Jost trade, the key pieces are there. Its just more of moving a pick here or there to get that done.


Yes Nuge is a good player, but the reality of a cap world is tough choices need to be made. Literally the only downside of having 2 of the best in the game. Nuge will look at similar players of similar age like, Kuznetsov, Hayes, O'Reilly. That gives you a ballpark of 7.2-7.8 on an 8 year deal. If he wants to test the market, you can bet he would see 8x7, because he is far and away the best C that would be available

Also what do you pay Yamamoto. He's as big a part of that line as 29 or 93. Would think that contract starts with a 6 best case scenario

You also only have 2 years until Nurse can walk, he's a big part of what the Oilers do. I'm not sure the Oilers can keep both Nurse and Nuge...
24 mai 2020 à 23 h 39
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Yes Nuge is a good player, but the reality of a cap world is tough choices need to be made. Literally the only downside of having 2 of the best in the game. Nuge will look at similar players of similar age like, Kuznetsov, Hayes, O'Reilly. That gives you a ballpark of 7.2-7.8 on an 8 year deal. If he wants to test the market, you can bet he would see 8x7, because he is far and away the best C that would be available

Also what do you pay Yamamoto. He's as big a part of that line as 29 or 93. Would think that contract starts with a 6 best case scenario

You also only have 2 years until Nurse can walk, he's a big part of what the Oilers do. I'm not sure the Oilers can keep both Nurse and Nuge...


I see the oil dumping nurse before nuge. The oilers finally have massive defensive depth and nurse has been known already to ask way more than what he is worth in regards to contract negotiations. The team has a few guys that can play nurse's role on the team for cheaper. Thats why I would prefer the oilers trade away nurse this offseason rather than get rid of a guy like larsson or losing nuge.

The big salary questions with edmonton (should they get rid of nurse) would be then focused on the overpaid pieces they have like neal (although i wouldnt be thrilled with losing 20 goals) chiasson, russel khaira, etc. These are guys that can be moved to clear cap space to sign longer-term deals to the young guys and provide a cheaper supporting cast to boot. Regardless though, the oil will be close to the cap with any scenario as will any team that views themselves as potential/ so-to-be contenders. Wouldn't mind seeing what kinda of haul the oil can get for a guy like nurse.
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25 mai 2020 à 1 h 4
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A favorable scenario might have Holland trading away Nurse at the 2021 draft, getting at least a quality top six forward in return, and then signing RNH on the first day of the UFA window. Larsson will also have an expiring contract, so he is likely to be dealt as well, quite possibly in exchange for a quality 3C.

That's quite a bit of physicality and experience to lose from the back end, but it could be the price paid to build a contender and remain cap compliant.
25 mai 2020 à 1 h 10
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A favorable scenario might have Holland trading away Nurse at the 2021 draft, getting at least a quality top six forward in return, and then signing RNH on the first day of the UFA window. Larsson will also have an expiring contract, so he is likely to be dealt as well, quite possibly in exchange for a quality 3C.

That's quite a bit of physicality and experience to lose from the back end, but it could be the price paid to build a contender and remain cap compliant.


It could happen, but it’s also really risky. The Oilers have two high end prospects in Broberg and Bouchard, but they are just that prospects... if they don’t turn out as planned then Edmonton is exactly right back to where they were when they made the Hall-Larson deal... they will have too many forwards and not enough D
25 mai 2020 à 6 h 9
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Colorado doesn't do this. In Jost we have at least a 3rd liner (maybe more) who works hard and is liked by coaches, the GM, and teammates. Puljujarvi has talent but if he couldn't even work hard enough to learn English I don't see why he'd be a player Sakic targets.

That said, what would Edmonton want from Colorado for RNH? What are your biggest needs?
25 mai 2020 à 7 h 39
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Fiala was like a top 15 winger for the second half of the season. Wild probably dont even do Fiala for RNH 1 for 1, they'd rather keep Fiala and hope he continues that high level of play


Fiala was good in the 2nd half (from Christmas onwards), but Nuge was in another league.

Nuge: 31, 15-26-41 [+8] / 6th in scoring
Fiala: 31, 15-18-33 [-2] / 19th in scoring

I'm not sure why Edmonton would accept this proposal, the only upside is cap space. The Oilers roster is worse for this trade.
25 mai 2020 à 9 h 33
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Wild pass. RNH would be nice to have and MN should go after him when he's a UFA after next season; but not trading Fiala for a rental 2C.
25 mai 2020 à 23 h 16
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Nuge is worth more than Fiala.
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