I think it's a bit high.
1st I don't think you put a signing condition on a guy with 2 years left.
2nd he's gonna be 30. I think you could get a 1st for him especially at TDL. But no one is going to give the farm.

BUF fans love to get early vacations so they'll probably decline.

Kind of like Habs fans thinking Petry should be worth a 1st, A-prospect and a conditional pick if he resigns?

Under the parameters that you laid out, I could see getting a 1st plus one of the teams better prospects if he's traded to a team that expects to make a run (which I assume he would be).

Thanks for your comments.

Kadri would be traded with 1 year left (as the trade would be in 2021 as stated in the title (thus only 1 year left, not 2).

Maybe Buffalo wasn't a good choice as they're not a playoff team, but I could see them being interested if there's a chance that they can extend him, which would solve their 2C issue.

Thanks for your reply.

By "one of the teams better prospects", I would assume that Johnson + 1st would be a reasonable ask?

I figure that Johnson is about 5th on Buffalo's prospect rankings (i.e. Cozens, Mittelstadt, Asplund, Luukkonen, Johnson, Samuelsson, Laaksonen), and with Dahlin/Pilut/Johnson/Samuelsson they have the depth to give up a LHD.

Do you think the 1st would have to be a late 1st, or would it still be 1st + high prospect even if it's a team like Buffalo (who may not make the playoffs) making the trade?

First plus a prospect IMO

Best **** i've ever see was a 1st + Sandin for Petry...

Just ****ing delusional, it'd be one thing if we were talking about a 27 or 28 year old guy hitting free agency but Petry will be 33 when he signs a new deal and will turn 34 shortly after his new contract starts, how much is a team supposed to give for a guy that age AND then there also be a conditional pick or upgrade if he resigns?!!..

A 1st and Sandin would be a massive overpay, imo Sandin should be an untouchable in regards to a trade for a guy with that little of term, will needs a raise if he even wants to sign and is that old and I'm not even a Leafs fan.

Honestly just keep kadri until newhook is ready to be the 2C

Just playing with the idea of how things would shake out if we OS'ed Cirelli.

OS'ing Cirelli is unlikely so I agree that we're best of just keeping Kadri until his deal expires in 2022, and run with Newhook and Kadri as 2C/3C in 2021/22.

Do you know the history between Kadri and Buffalo? No chance he waives. No one is going to want to play in Buffalo after not even making the “Playoffs.” Plus the price for Kadri is a bit too high in my opinion.

Don't look at me, I don't purpose these things.
But what I do know, is it's a lot, especially if it's a pure rental like the poster has said. Hell at least I gave him 2 years.

I was agreeing with you, I'm a Kadri fan but that's way too much to expect for him even if he'll still have a year of term left.

What's the history between Kadri and Buffalo? Does he have beef with them too like with the Bruins?

Buffalo was just meant as an example. I'm sure there are other teams that might be more suitable who need a 2C and are closer to playoff contention. Like Columbus, Florida, or Minnesota to name three.

What do you guys think Kadri is worth if traded in the following 3 scenarios?

1) In the 2020 offseason (2 full seasons to UFA).

2) In the 2021 offseason (1 full season).

3) In the first half of the 2021/22 season (~ half a season and playoffs).

IMO Buffalo would make that trade.
Kadri is just the player the Sabres need.
He plays with heart, toughness and skill.
Let's make the 2021 first conditional on Kadri signing and take out the top 10 protected.

I agree, perfect fit for you.

What happens if Kadri doesn't resign? Do we just get a 2nd? If so then it's a pass. Kadri definitely fetches a first. He's a 30+30 center that plays excellent defense and brings a tonne of intangibles including toughness.

Without a 1st you'll either have to give us another top prospect or we'll just move him elsewhere. There are plenty of bubble teams needing a 2c who would be happy to pay us what we're looking for (eg. Florida need a 2C, we could get a 1st + Kolyachonok + conditional 2nd/3rd from them. Alternatively Minnesota or Columbus need 2C's and have assets that would interest us.

I was under the impression that this a solid draft at least to the 7th.
I do not know the value of next year.
I you would rather roll the dice for next year that is fine, Kadri would be perfect.
Is Colorado shopping him now?
Let's make a deal, 1st, 2nd and prospect.

I think he's talking about if they were to OS cirelli. If they did, then yes, Kadri would probably be on the market

Colorado aren't really "shopping" him now. The premise of this idea is that Colorado would successfully offersheet Cirelli, in which case we could afford to move Kadri this offseason. That said, even with Cirelli on the team we could also simply opt to keep Kadri for another year as 3C, and then trade him in 2021 once Newhook joins. Given that we're not in a rush to trade him the package we receive would need to be good.

It makes sense if Buffalo want to keep this years pick (~7th overall), that's a prized asset that would be silly to trade right now. A 2021 1st would be fine, though I wouldn't want to push it into 2022 if possible.

Kadri would only be available after we successfully OS Cirelli first, and that would likely only happen after the draft. As such the picks would probably need to be in 2021.

How about BUF 2021 1st + BUF 2021 2nd + Samuelsson/Johnson (not sure which one you prefer keeping)? That gives you 2 years of Kadri at a cheap $4.5m caphit, and adding Kadri to a team that has Eichel, Reinhart, Dahlin, and Ristolainen would almost certainly see you finish closer to the playoffs in 20/21 thereby putting that 1st somewhere in the middle of the 1st round which seems reasonable value.