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Jets stopgap ld options

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Équipe: 2020-21 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 23 mai 2020
Publié: 23 mai 2020
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The point is that it would be best for the jets to get a rental top 4 d-man while heinola and niku acclimate. I think halfway through the year at least one of them will be ready for a top 4 role but until then it would be best to have a top 4. Also having that option let’s heinola and/or niku dominate :rd pairing minutes until the .

Cole has same condition as zadorov
Also forgot to add b prospect to Murray.
Obviously edmundson would have to sign a 1 yr deal

This is the order I would get the players in. Brodin though the best, is last because I don’t think the jets should spend a lot on someone who would only be a stopgap.
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          23 mai 2020 à 13 h 59
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          Detroit is already hurting for LDs they aren't going to trade any away. Detroit has DeKeyser, Nemeth and Cholowski at LD and Cholowski hasn't earned his spot on the roster yet.
          23 mai 2020 à 14 h 1
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          I'm having a hard time coming up with a Brodin trade to the Jets. I can't see us going for a 2021 first, our owner wants to be competitive every year and it would be a tough sell moving Brodin for an asset that we can't use for 3-5 years. Whats the deal Roslovic? Can he play center? If so, a trade for your first this year and Roslovic might make a little sense from the Wild's perspective but maybe not for the Jets since (as you said) it'll cost a lot for a 1 year of Brodin
          23 mai 2020 à 14 h 10
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          Ristolainen for Copp? Sabres won’t trade McCabe.
          23 mai 2020 à 15 h 18
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          We should sign Dillon and let Samberg play 3LD at the start I think he could be a top 4 dman by the end of the season
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          23 mai 2020 à 15 h 21
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          None of these trades are fair value even for rental top 4 d, and any trade within the division you’re going to have to pay a higher premium.
          23 mai 2020 à 16 h 50
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          Gunnarsson would be a nice “defense only” fit if the Blues have to trade him.
          23 mai 2020 à 17 h 1
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          Quoting: Sabres923
          Ristolainen for Copp? Sabres won’t trade McCabe.


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          23 mai 2020 à 17 h 5
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          Modifié 23 mai 2020 à 17 h 41
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          None of these trades are fair value even for rental top 4 d, and any trade within the division you’re going to have to pay a higher premium.


          Which ones aren’t exactly fair? Murray for sure now that I think of it, but the rest are decent imo.
          23 mai 2020 à 17 h 40
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          Quoting: STLBlues17
          Gunnarsson would be a nice “defense only” fit if the Blues have to trade him.


          Imo in that case, the jets are better off with say beaulieu. I didn’t want to include too many low end options since they would all be similar to beaulieu
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          23 mai 2020 à 18 h 24
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          Imo in that case, the jets are better off with say beaulieu. I didn’t want to include too many low end options since they would all be similar to beaulieu


          Makes sense, although I’d take Gunnarsson over Edmundson all day, especially at those price points.
          23 mai 2020 à 18 h 33
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          Makes sense, although I’d take Gunnarsson over Edmundson all day, especially at those price points.


          Really? I didn’t think gunnarsson was even a full time defencemen. Might consider it then. What would u say ur scouting report is on him? Also is he a #4, #5, or #6?
          23 mai 2020 à 18 h 41
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          Which ones aren’t exactly fair? Murray for sure now that I think of it, but the rest are decent imo.


          Start - with what the rental market was at the trade deadline. In your own description you are calling these guys top 4 rentals. But the ones that stood out.
          Hjalmarsson is close but no way is AZ retaining salary in any situation.
          Cole is a guy you can play on the top pairing in a **** down role in a pinch and anchor the dcorp pk and adds the intangible of knowing what it takes to win a cup. That’s worth a lot more than a 3rd Rd pick and you are talking about a trade to a division rival the Avs aren’t doing that for a 3rd.
          Nemeth - hate his offense and he isn’t great at moving the puck but he is great in the pk and being able to take most matchups. Plus his value to Detroit is way more than a pick that at best has a 50/50 chance of making it to the NHL in 3-4 yrs.
          Oleksiak - probably close on value but again you are talking about a division rival trading to another team they are competing against for a playoff spot.
          Brodin - see TanSor’s comment
          Zadorov - love him or hate him, he has the ability to play against the other teams top players, can skate, and as Schiefle knows be a beast physically. He gets fairly ridiculed for his occasional boneheaded plays, but he has been great the last 2 playoffs, and again you are talking about a trade to division rival.
          Ryan Murray - yeah I agree it would have to be conditional on the pick, but Columbus isn’t shipping him for a 3rd that possibly turns into a 2nd.
          McCabe - I don’t know about this way, maybe🤷‍♂️
          But that’s my opinion.
          23 mai 2020 à 18 h 49
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          Really? I didn’t think gunnarsson was even a full time defencemen. Might consider it then. What would u say ur scouting report is on him? Also is he a #4, #5, or #6?


          He’s probably a 5, but he usually plays with Pietrangelo and gets pretty decent defensive results. The issue the last two seasons is that he just can’t stay healthy. He’s nothing special, but compared to Edmundson he’s a huge upgrade (sorry I’ve had a vendetta against Edmundson for the last two seasons.)
          23 mai 2020 à 18 h 53
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          Start - with what the rental market was at the trade deadline. In your own description you are calling these guys top 4 rentals. But the ones that stood out.
          Hjalmarsson is close but no way is AZ retaining salary in any situation.
          Cole is a guy you can play on the top pairing in a **** down role in a pinch and anchor the dcorp pk and adds the intangible of knowing what it takes to win a cup. That’s worth a lot more than a 3rd Rd pick and you are talking about a trade to a division rival the Avs aren’t doing that for a 3rd.
          Nemeth - hate his offense and he isn’t great at moving the puck but he is great in the pk and being able to take most matchups. Plus his value to Detroit is way more than a pick that at best has a 50/50 chance of making it to the NHL in 3-4 yrs.
          Oleksiak - probably close on value but again you are talking about a division rival trading to another team they are competing against for a playoff spot.
          Brodin - see TanSor’s comment
          Zadorov - love him or hate him, he has the ability to play against the other teams top players, can skate, and as Schiefle knows be a beast physically. He gets fairly ridiculed for his occasional boneheaded plays, but he has been great the last 2 playoffs, and again you are talking about a trade to division rival.
          Ryan Murray - yeah I agree it would have to be conditional on the pick, but Columbus isn’t shipping him for a 3rd that possibly turns into a 2nd.
          McCabe - I don’t know about this way, maybe🤷‍♂️
          But that’s my opinion.


          First things first, I kind of just went for close on the trades not exactly value.

          Now, this isn’t at the tdl anymore, it’s in the offseason, when prices for players aren’t that high. The overpayments for some defensemen at this tdl where gross in some cases and will not carry over into the offseason

          For cole, from the avs fans I have talked to, the most he is worth apparently is a 2nd so I went off that.

          Fair enough with Nemeth, though he will be gone come tdl.

          For Brodin, I just took what muzzin got. There is no way whatsoever that any team will give the value of roslovic (probably late first /early 2nd) and a top 15 pick for Brodin without an extention. No gm is that stupid. He isn’t even a top pairing guy.

          Zadorov, see the additional details in trade.

          Murray probably needs a another b-prospect or a 2nd/3rd
          23 mai 2020 à 18 h 55
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          He’s probably a 5, but he usually plays with Pietrangelo and gets pretty decent defensive results. The issue the last two seasons is that he just can’t stay healthy. He’s nothing special, but compared to Edmundson he’s a huge upgrade (sorry I’ve had a vendetta against Edmundson for the last two seasons.)


          I’d rather have a lower end healthy guy for that spot than a higher end injury prone guy
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          23 mai 2020 à 20 h 29
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          Given that he's top-pairing when healthy, Murray is closer to "2nd, or 1st when healthy" rather than 3rd or 2nd when healthy.
          25 mai 2020 à 10 h 37
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          If Im Chevvy Im targeting a UFA LD to fill the gap. No point to give up so much when Heinola and Samberg are in the wings, the latter apparently NHL ready.
          I would love to see Edmundson or Dillon, but they'll most likely be looking for term and money (obvs). Dillon is 29 and is looking for his last bigger contract and someone will pay him. Same could be said for Edmundson, but I think he'd be cheaper
          I liked Beaulieu's game when he was healthy. He'll never live up to being a first rounder, but his ceiling could be shut down second pairing guy with physical upside. It's crazy to say too, but Kulikov was having a pretty damn good season before it all shut down. I wouldn't mind the jets bringing him back at around 2 mill on a 1 year deal
           
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