Stamer not a center?

I have a feeling this will be controversial.

Barkov went from being criminally underrated to criminally overrated.

I noticed that too, but as OP pointed out in the description, he's playing LW with Point and Kucherov now

Either Stammer or Points a C, don't think both can be on the same list. If you do put him at 6/7 around the JT level. Also, JT>Bergeron/Point

I'd have Eichel at the top.

I mean he had a pretty bad offensive season but he's still elite I'd bet 10 bucks he's bouncing back next year

He and Matthews are pretty equal but yeah you're maybe right... you're fine with both tho lol

Nailed it

Bergeron fifth



Offensively, maybe. All-around, no way

Cirelli is starting to get so much love. Its fantastic.

What? JT is certainly better defensively then Point. He plays his position well, grinds it out, and his offensive advantage certainly makes him the clear pick over Point.

Bergeron? It's close. PB has such good defensive game it's hard to say

One guy has been a Selke finalist for 8 straight years and finished top 5 for 10 years....one guy has never cracked the top 5.

This is like you say Seguin is overrated while having nothing to support your statement.

No, Bergeron is quite a bit better then JT defensively. Massively better. I never said JT had a better 2-way game the him.

Point however is a different story.

And that Seguin thing, really? It's more that he isn't the franichise-defining player he was 4-5 years ago, and this year especially has seen massive drop-offs in him game.

Offensively, yes. What do you mean about FO? Best FO% in his career. And Seguin has been more of complete player in the past three years than in was in '14-17.

FO comes with experience and time in the N. I'm not saying he's bad, it's just he isn't scoring at that lucrative rate he was 4-5 years ago.

it's one season.

Pts/GP of 0.99 in the past 6 seasons. Only this year he's at .72

Saying " It's more that he isn't the franichise-defining player he was 4-5 years ago " is a bit premature

I mean he has only broken a ppg 3 times in his career, his first 3 years in Dallas. Even then, he was like 73 pts in 72 games. He never had a crazy good season. For me he's for sure a star, just not a franchise player the same way Sid or McDavid or Eichel is.

Idk who thinks that they're wrong

For me this started when people were arguing that he should be on team Canada over Scheifele and Tavares.