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31 in 31 cap hell edition

Créé par: ConnorMcHellebucyk
Date de création initiale: mai 19, 2020
Publié: May 19 at 7:42 pm
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Explications
20 man roster lol
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Cirelli, Anthony33 500 000 $
Verhaeghe, Carter21 000 000 $
Cernak, Erik21 500 000 $
Joseph, Mathieu2900 000 $
Stephens, Mitchell2900 000 $
Sergachev, Mikhail45 200 000 $
UFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Shattenkirk, Kevin22 000 000 $
Rutta, Jan2950 000 $
Transactions
TBL
    CBO
    ANA
    1. Gourde, Yanni
    TBL
    1. 2020 3e round pick (TOR)
    COL
    1. Palat, Ondrej
    2. 2020 2e round pick (TBL)
    3. 2021 5e round pick (TBL)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Vincent Lecavalier: 0 $
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2020
    TBL
    PHI
    TOR
    TBL
    DET
    TBL
    OTT
    TBL
    2021
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    NSH
    NJD
    2022
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TBL
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2081 500 000 $80 700 000 $0 $0 $800 000 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    TBL
    Coleman, Blake
    1 800 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    TBL
    Stamkos, Steven
    8 500 000 $
    C, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    TBL
    Kucherov, Nikita
    9 500 000 $
    AD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    TBL
    Killorn, Alex
    4 450 000 $
    AG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    TBL
    Point, Brayden
    6 750 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 2
    TBL
    Johnson, Tyler
    5 000 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    TBL
    Goodrow, Barclay
    925 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    TBL
    Cirelli, Anthony
    3 500 000 $
    C
    RFA
    TBL
    Verhaeghe, Carter
    1 000 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA
    TBL
    Joseph, Mathieu
    900 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA
    TBL
    Paquette, Cédric
    1 650 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    TBL
    Stephens, Mitchell
    900 000 $
    C
    RFA
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    TBL
    Hedman, Victor
    7 875 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    TBL
    Sergachev, Mikhail
    5 200 000 $
    DG
    RFA
    TBL
    Vasilevskiy, Andrei
    9 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 8
    TBL
    McDonagh, Ryan
    6 750 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    TBL
    Shattenkirk, Kevin
    2 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA
    TBL
    McElhinney, Curtis
    1 300 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    TBL
    Coburn, Braydon
    1 700 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    TBL
    Cernak, Erik
    1 500 000 $
    DD
    RFA

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    19 mai à 19 h 46
    #1
    Dubas is a genius
    Rejoint: avr 2020
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    Cirelli instead takes a 6.5m offersheet, and Cernak instead takes a 3m offersheet. You likely can't keep them both at this point.
    19 mai à 19 h 50
    #2
    Go Wings Go
    Rejoint: jun 2016
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    No CBO, Palat isn't waiving. Killorn is the only movable piece as he can be dealt to 14 teams without his permission. Cirelli is way underpaid and gets far more on a offer sheet somewhere.
    Shanesaw9 a aimé ceci.
    19 mai à 20 h 03
    #3
    #DisruptTheNight
    Rejoint: mar 2017
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    Let Shatty walk, call up Foote
    Eldoser a aimé ceci.
    19 mai à 20 h 04
    #4
    Rejoint: jun 2019
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    Quoting: firezfurx
    Cirelli instead takes a 6.5m offersheet, and Cernak instead takes a 3m offersheet. You likely can't keep them both at this point.


    I would bet the offer sheets Point recieved were 9M or more. He turned them all down. Any OS of 6.5M has to be for 6+ years for Cirelli to probably consider it. Same with Cernak, an OS of 3M is like a 2M deal in Tampa.
    20 mai à 1 h 54
    #5
    SLIMY
    Rejoint: avr 2019
    Messages: 63
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    theres a clear difference between point taking a team friendly deal and these guys getting offer sheeted for 200% of what tampa can give them. If somebody throws $8mm at sergachev for whatever term he says, A. its hard to say no, and B. its impossible for tampa to match.
    20 mai à 5 h 49
    #6
    My teams suck
    Rejoint: mai 2020
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Same with Cernak, an OS of 3M is like a 2M deal in Tampa.

    That's not how taxes work. Max tax advantage based on state location is in the neighborhood of 13% (ignoring Canada's provincial rates for the moment). A far cry from your dubious 33%. The funny part is...adjusting for cost of living and sales & use tax, Tampa is actually more expensive than many NHL cities with higher taxes so the players are actually screwing themselves in some cases where the tax advantage isn't so great.
    ConnorMcHellebucyk a aimé ceci.
    20 mai à 6 h 17
    #7
    Rejoint: jun 2019
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    Quoting: Taxtime
    That's not how taxes work. Max tax advantage based on state location is in the neighborhood of 13% (ignoring Canada's provincial rates for the moment). A far cry from your dubious 33%. The funny part is...adjusting for cost of living and sales & use tax, Tampa is actually more expensive than many NHL cities with higher taxes so the players are actually screwing themselves in some cases where the tax advantage isn't so great.


    You actually made an entire account just to tell me my exaggeration is not precise?
    ConnorMcHellebucyk a aimé ceci.
    20 mai à 6 h 38
    #8
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    Quoting: Slimycoldcutswork
    theres a clear difference between point taking a team friendly deal and these guys getting offer sheeted for 200% of what tampa can give them. If somebody throws $8mm at sergachev for whatever term he says, A. its hard to say no, and B. its impossible for tampa to match.


    Next time you are responding to me hit the quote button or i wont see it (i saw the response after yours that quoted me).
    Players care about more then just their cap hit. Bonuses, QO's, winning are all important when signing a contract. Also things like trust in management and previously built relations with team members and staff. Montreal traded Sergachev before he was even given a chance to play for them i would be surprised if even looks at any offer sheet recieved from them. If a team offers him an an 8Mx5yr deal sure he will sign it since it walks him to UFA and he gets paid big.
    On the other hand you have the GM's POV. Before sending out an OS they have to acknowledge that this would cause bad relations between the 2 teams for future trading if its signed regardless of it being matched or not. Also the GM has to evaluate the player they are send an offer sheet to so they arent drastically overpaying the player. In the case of Sergachev any GM who sends him an offer of 8M is a complete idiot. Why would he deserve more then players like McAvoy, Werenski, and Provorov, who are all better then him and making marginally less then that
    24 mai à 4 h 26
    #9
    SLIMY
    Rejoint: avr 2019
    Messages: 63
    Mentions "j'aime": 10
    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Next time you are responding to me hit the quote button or i wont see it (i saw the response after yours that quoted me).
    Players care about more then just their cap hit. Bonuses, QO's, winning are all important when signing a contract. Also things like trust in management and previously built relations with team members and staff. Montreal traded Sergachev before he was even given a chance to play for them i would be surprised if even looks at any offer sheet recieved from them. If a team offers him an an 8Mx5yr deal sure he will sign it since it walks him to UFA and he gets paid big.
    On the other hand you have the GM's POV. Before sending out an OS they have to acknowledge that this would cause bad relations between the 2 teams for future trading if its signed regardless of it being matched or not. Also the GM has to evaluate the player they are send an offer sheet to so they arent drastically overpaying the player. In the case of Sergachev any GM who sends him an offer of 8M is a complete idiot. Why would he deserve more then players like McAvoy, Werenski, and Provorov, who are all better then him and making marginally less then that


    great. my point still stands. nothing is preventing a GM from being an idiot.
     
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