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Créé par: DirtyDangle
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 16 mai 2020
Publié: 16 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
habs move on from price get a younger goalie, big left handed defensemen, and picks to rebuild with.

edit: 1st round pick changed to 2nd round pick.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
25 000 000 $
32 500 000 $
32 250 000 $
11 000 000 $
32 750 000 $
33 500 000 $
1750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1850 000 $
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
2.
COL
  1. Price, Carey (5 250 000 $ retained)
MTL
  1. Grubauer, Philipp
  2. Zadorov, Nikita
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (COL)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (COL)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $77 034 762 $0 $5 425 000 $4 465 238 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 571 429 $5 571 429 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 5
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AD
RFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 450 000 $3 450 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
925 000 $925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
850 000 $850 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1

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16 mai 2020 à 20 h 51
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Stop. Colorado has no interest in this trade
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16 mai 2020 à 20 h 53
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Stop. Colorado has no interest in this trade


montreal will retain to move price.
16 mai 2020 à 20 h 54
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Montreal would have no interest in this trade. Rather just keep Price
16 mai 2020 à 20 h 54
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Still not worth it for the Av's.
16 mai 2020 à 20 h 55
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Still not worth it for the Av's.


what would it need?
16 mai 2020 à 20 h 56
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price isn't worth that
16 mai 2020 à 20 h 56
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what would it need?


It would need to not happen
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16 mai 2020 à 20 h 59
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
what would it need?


Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
It would need to not happen


What he said. @DirtyDangle
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16 mai 2020 à 21 h 3
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
montreal will retain to move price.


Call me when MTL retains half and is sending us their 1st for future considerations
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16 mai 2020 à 21 h 9
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Call me when MTL retains half and is sending us their 1st for future considerations


half is already retained. so what if i changed the 1st to a 2nd?
16 mai 2020 à 21 h 21
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half is already retained. so what if i changed the 1st to a 2nd?


We have no interest man.. why pay to change your sav% from .917 to .899
16 mai 2020 à 21 h 25
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@DirtyDangle you just made this abomination of a trade but you say that timmins and a 1st for domi signed at 6 mill is a straight up no?

Colorado isnt looking for a goalie, they need 1 top 6 winger... even then they could do nothing and still be a contender, MTL isnt a contender
16 mai 2020 à 21 h 32
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Quoting: JeffW
We have no interest man.. why pay to change your sav% from .917 to .899


the teams in front of them were anything but equal. price is the better goalie, don't be a homer.
16 mai 2020 à 21 h 32
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@DirtyDangle you just made this abomination of a trade but you say that timmins and a 1st for domi signed at 6 mill is a straight up no?

Colorado isnt looking for a goalie, they need 1 top 6 winger... even then they could do nothing and still be a contender, MTL isnt a contender


domi at 6mil is a no by itself. you want to add 1st and timmins for that?
16 mai 2020 à 21 h 39
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It's tempting, but not quite there.

This trade breaks down as:

- Grubauer = 2 2nds .... if not more. He was acquired for a 2nd + orpik cap dump (effectively a 2nd), and his value has only gone up by being a starter for 2 years.
- Zadorov = 2nd + 3rd
- Picks 2nd + 3rd

So we'd effectively be trading 4 2nd's and 2 3rd's for a goalie paid $5.25m signed for another 6 years and with his best years behind him who's only going get worse.

It's a much better offer than the usual Price-to-Colorado suggestions though. And honestly it's a tiny bit tempting as Price at his best is a really good goalie. I just don't know if the change would be worth the risk for Colorado though as our goalie situation is pretty solid and we also have Annunen in the pipeline who looks really promising.

From Montreal's perspective, retaining $5.25m for 6 years would be a really bad look for them, so I doubt they sanction that.
16 mai 2020 à 21 h 42
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It's tempting, but not quite there.

This trade breaks down as:

- Grubauer = 2 2nds .... if not more. He was acquired for a 2nd + orpik cap dump (effectively a 2nd), and his value has only gone up by being a starter for 2 years.
- Zadorov = 2nd + 3rd
- Picks 2nd + 3rd

So we'd effectively be trading 4 2nd's and 2 3rd's for a goalie paid $5.25m signed for another 6 years and with his best years behind him who's only going get worse.

It's a much better offer than the usual Price-to-Colorado suggestions though. And honestly it's a tiny bit tempting as Price at his best is a really good goalie. I just don't know if the change would be worth the risk for Colorado though as our goalie situation is pretty solid and we also have Annunen in the pipeline who looks really promising.


grubauer is a sunk cost, don't factor the picks it cost to acquire him in a new deal. grubauer is good goalie but only plays 35 games a year. injuries are a concern.
16 mai 2020 à 21 h 59
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
grubauer is a sunk cost, don't factor the picks it cost to acquire him in a new deal. grubauer is good goalie but only plays 35 games a year. injuries are a concern.


The cost to acquire him can be used as a barometer for what goalies typically cost. Grubauer would have played more if he had been on a different team. He's been the starter in a 1A/1B combo with Varlamov and Francouz.
16 mai 2020 à 22 h 7
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Still not worth it for the Av's.


Avs get one of the best goalies in the league for 5M for 6 years for a dman they're gonna trade anyways, their current goalie and a couple picks? Sounds like an unreal deal to me
16 mai 2020 à 22 h 8
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
grubauer is a sunk cost, don't factor the picks it cost to acquire him in a new deal. grubauer is good goalie but only plays 35 games a year. injuries are a concern.


Last year he had to win the job, as it was varlys to lose, this year he we injured, it's not a recurring thing
16 mai 2020 à 22 h 11
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
the teams in front of them were anything but equal. price is the better goalie, don't be a homer.


No, price was the better goalie.. hes 32, 6 years left on the largest goalie contract in the league that he did earn.. however his stock is going down, where grubauers is on the rise

Colorado does not need a goalie upgrade or otherwise, why would you sink assets into someone who has already played their best hockey

Also the avs were so injured this year you cant say that they had a better team in front of grubauer or francouz
16 mai 2020 à 22 h 13
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Avs get one of the best goalies in the league for 5M for 6 years for a dman they're gonna trade anyways, their current goalie and a couple picks? Sounds like an unreal deal to me


It would be an unreal deal if that were true and he wasn't 33 to start next season. There was also a first included in the deal, but it has been changed.
16 mai 2020 à 23 h 3
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It would be an unreal deal if that were true and he wasn't 33 to start next season. There was also a first included in the deal, but it has been changed.


Yeah I wouldnt pay a 1st but the deal currently shown makes a lot of sense. Great goalies don't really see a decline until their late 30s so they would have an elite goalie at 5M for the next 4-5 years.
16 mai 2020 à 23 h 11
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Yeah I wouldnt pay a 1st but the deal currently shown makes a lot of sense. Great goalies don't really see a decline until their late 30s so they would have an elite goalie at 5M for the next 4-5 years.


He's already declined. Doesn't make sense for the Av's to make this trade when they already have two cheaper, younger goalies who are posting superior numbers.
 
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