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Créé par: HockeyNut82

Équipe: 2020-21 Red Wings de Detroit

Date de création initiale: 14 mai 2020

Publié: 14 mai 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Assuming cap stays at 81.5 for next season (Thanks Corona)

With TB cap crunched, I don't see how TB can sign BOTH Cirelli and Sergachev. So looking for TB fan input on what they see as a good trade with DET. I would love to get Cirelli here, as DET is in dire need of a 2C (among lot of other things). I'm thinking the trade can't involve Larkin/Mantha, because it's a cap hit back that TB can't handle. So my thought is the trade would have to be for futures, (picks/prospects), correct? Would taking a bad contract with Cirelli or Serg help with reducing the ask back? I would think so.

Couple of possible trades (both won't happan, just one or the other)- let me know what you think TB fans. Please don't kill me on the return for my trades, more looking for what you guys would suggest.

Or maybe I'm bat **** crazy and TB will sign both without help from other teams, and shove this whole idea up my hoop.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler	4	4 500 000 $
Bowey, Madison	2	1 000 000 $
Ehn, Christoffer	1	950 000 $
Fabbri, Robby	3	3 000 000 $
Hirose, Taro	2	950 000 $
Mantha, Anthony	6	6 500 000 $
Perlini, Brendan	1	900 000 $
Svechnikov, Evgeny	2	1 000 000 $
Timashov, Dmytro	2	900 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Gagner, Sam	1	2 000 000 $
Goloubef, Cody	1	900 000 $
Khudobin, Anton	2	3 000 000 $

Transactions

DET

ANA

Abdelkader, Justin

Détails additionnels:

CBO - If there isn't any available, he's sent to GR.

DET

Cirelli, Anthony [Droits de RFA]
Johnson, Tyler

TBL

Hirose, Taro
Svechnikov, Evgeny
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (EDM)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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2021
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FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
25	81 500 000 $	69 363 333 $	0 $	2 070 000 $	12 136 667 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Bertuzzi, Tyler 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ C UFA - 3	Mantha, Anthony 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4
Fabbri, Robby 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Johnson, Tyler 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, C, AG NTC UFA - 4	Zadina, Filip 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 2
	Filppula, Valtteri 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Palat, Ondrej 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AG, AD NTC UFA - 2
Rasmussen, Michael 894 166 $894 166 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, C UFA - 1	Gagner, Sam 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1
Bromé, Mathias 925 000 $925 000 $ (212 500 $$212K) AG, AD UFA - 1	Glendening, Luke 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ C, AD, AG UFA - 1	Helm, Darren 3 850 000 $3 850 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1
Timashov, Dmytro 900 000 $900 000 $ AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
DeKeyser, Danny 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Hronek, Filip 714 166 $714 166 $ (157 500 $$158K) DD RFA - 1	Bernier, Jonathan 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Nemeth, Patrik 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Biega, Alex 875 000 $875 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Goloubef, Cody 900 000 $900 000 $ DD UFA - 1		Khudobin, Anton 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ G UFA - 3
Bowey, Madison 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Seider, Moritz 894 167 $894 167 $ DD RFA - 4

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Nielsen, Frans 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 2		Zetterberg, Henrik 6 083 333 $6 083 333 $ C UFA - 1
Perlini, Brendan 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG UFA

14 mai 2020 à 10 h 11

littlejerryseinfeld

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neither of those trades are remotely close.

dont forget, there are 28 other teams in the league too. the only options arent staying in tampa or go to detroit.

you also didn't even sign cirelli and sergachev who would likely put you over the cap.

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14 mai 2020 à 10 h 11

justaBoss

What in tarnation

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That's a no to both TB trades. The value is extremely lacking, Palat and Johnson aren't bad contracts in any way and won't need to be compensated, not to mention they're very unlikely to waive their full NTCs in order to go from a top contender to the worst team in the league.

Sergachev/Cirelli will most likely cost you Hronek+. Can't see TB moving both. Maybe one of them, but not both.

Weirdest thing in this post though is the fact that you didn't sign either of Cirelli or Sergachev lol.

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14 mai 2020 à 10 h 20

HockeyNut82

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Very true - I didn't sign them, oops. But like i said, I wouldn't be trading for both, only one. So both would put me over the cap. I have enough space to sign one of them....

Thank you for the actual suggestion justaBoss - that's more of what I was looking for, what would it take from a TB fan perspective.

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14 mai 2020 à 10 h 24

justaBoss

What in tarnation

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Quoting: HockeyNut82

No problem.

14 mai 2020 à 10 h 46

aedoran

Rejoint: déc. 2017

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Quoting: justaBoss

That's a no to both TB trades. The value is extremely lacking, Palat and Johnson aren't bad contracts in any way and won't need to be compensated, not to mention they're very unlikely to waive their full NTCs in order to go from a top contender to the worst team in the league Sergachev/Cirelli will most likely cost you Hronek+. Can't see TB moving both. Maybe one of them, but not both.Weirdest thing in this post though is the fact that you didn't sign either of Cirelli or Sergachev lol.

I agree. Now I wouldn't trade Hronek for Cirelli and I most likely wouldn't trade for Hronek for Sergachev.

Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

neither of those trades are remotely close.
dont forget, there are 28 other teams in the league too. the only options arent staying in tampa or go to detroit.
you also didn't even sign cirelli and sergachev who would likely put you over the cap.

I agree with that as well but you'd have to assume that Detroit would get first crack at players coming out of TB the same as TB would most likely get first crack coming out of Detroit.

14 mai 2020 à 10 h 57

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: aedoran

I agree. Now I wouldn't trade Hronek for Cirelli and I most likely wouldn't trade for Hronek for Sergachev.

Despite Yzerman in Detroit, I'm sure it would cost more to move them within the division

I agree with that as well but you'd have to assume that Detroit would get first crack at players coming out of TB the same as TB would most likely get first crack coming out of Detroit.

14 mai 2020 à 11 h 8

Hedman77

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wtf is this? How about Larkin for Johnson, Gourde and a 2nd

14 mai 2020 à 11 h 29

aedoran

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

You're probably right but I didn't say they would either team would give the other one a discount I said first crack. HYPOTHETICALLY: TB knows Detroit is interested in Sergachev BriseBois call Yzerman and says "Hronek and a 2nd and he all yours." Once again HYPOTHETICALLY!

14 mai 2020 à 14 h 54

VastBluepuppy424

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Big No for both trades, Johnson and Palat are Good for the 2nd line, they would cost a 2nd and a mid to low prospect each. Cirelli and Sergachev worth a lot more than that

14 mai 2020 à 15 h 3

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matulix

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Tampa easily says no

15 mai 2020 à 22 h 27

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Wingsfannn

Rejoint: janv. 2019

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No way tampa would ever consider any of these

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