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Great Hockey trade to help both teams improve

Créé par: Falbert_Dong
Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 13 mai 2020
Publié: 13 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
CBJ
  1. Gallagher, Brendan
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (STL)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
2.
CHI
  1. Danault, Phillip
  2. Tatar, Tomas (2 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Weber, Shea
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Having Tatar at 2 mill less will save the Hawks of cap troubles and having Tatar ar 3.8 mill is like having Toews at 5 mil id presume
3.
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1581 500 000 $60 439 032 $0 $850 000 $21 060 968 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
763 333 $763 333 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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13 mai 2020 à 12 h 19
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That would be a no from Toronto. Nylander has such a good contract makes no sense for the Leafs.
13 mai 2020 à 12 h 22
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That would be a no from Toronto. Nylander has such a good contract makes no sense for the Leafs.


whats nylander actually worth 10M
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13 mai 2020 à 12 h 24
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Haha Suzuki for Nylander 😂😂
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13 mai 2020 à 12 h 27
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
whats nylander actually worth 10M


Not 7m< thats for sure. If he was 30, then 7m is right. But he's not and is only getting better while that contract only gets better.
13 mai 2020 à 12 h 34
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Not 7m< thats for sure. If he was 30, then 7m is right. But he's not and is only getting better while that contract only gets better.


8.5?
13 mai 2020 à 12 h 36
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I don’t see Chicago ever accepting that trade, it’s very lopsided and favors Montreal greatly.
13 mai 2020 à 12 h 38
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
8.5?

Smth like that. But that's why we don't make the trade because Suzuki is going to need an RFA contract thats a lot more.
13 mai 2020 à 13 h 14
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Columbus says no pretty quickly.

That Chicago trade has to be one of the worst ones I've ever seen for the Habs. Both Weber and Danault hold more value then Toews and you're including even more significant pieces to acquire him. Very easy no

Toronto doesnt do that. Willy is locked up and they need wingers more then centers.
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13 mai 2020 à 13 h 15
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
I don’t see Chicago ever accepting that trade, it’s very lopsided and favors Montreal greatly.


You're joking right....... I wouldn't even trade Danult for Toews alone. This guy is adding Weber, Tatar and a top 10 pick. Its ridiculously lop sided to chicago
13 mai 2020 à 13 h 16
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Habs's D is bad and you want to trade Shea Weber? That's just fixing one issue (C) while at the same time making another issue worse (prospect pool and especially that D-Core).
13 mai 2020 à 13 h 23
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You're joking right....... I wouldn't even trade Danult for Toews alone. This guy is adding Weber, Tatar and a top 10 pick. Its ridiculously lop sided to chicago


It's not lopsided but it's bad for the Hawks in terms of lenghts of contracts. Toews's contract isn't good in terms of AAV but it ends in 3 years whereas Weber's has 6 more years. (Double amt of years compared to Toews) Either way this trade doesn't make any sense.

- MTL perspective: their D-Core gets much worse. Habs already have trouble to find the ideal LHD to replace Markov and now they also have to find the ideal RHD to replace Weber.
- CHI perspective: Hawks also have that absymal contract of Brent Seabrook which gives them 2 LT contract. (Weber and Seabrook)
13 mai 2020 à 14 h 15
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Absolutely not a snowball's chance in hell on that Dubois trade. We end up without any top-6 centers, a bunch of picks we don't need and can't help us soon enough, and a fifth top-6 right wing. That trade would get Kekalainen burned in effigy.
13 mai 2020 à 15 h 42
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Quoting: EzioUchiha
It's not lopsided but it's bad for the Hawks in terms of lenghts of contracts. Toews's contract isn't good in terms of AAV but it ends in 3 years whereas Weber's has 6 more years. (Double amt of years compared to Toews) Either way this trade doesn't make any sense.

- MTL perspective: their D-Core gets much worse. Habs already have trouble to find the ideal LHD to replace Markov and now they also have to find the ideal RHD to replace Weber.
- CHI perspective: Hawks also have that absymal contract of Brent Seabrook which gives them 2 LT contract. (Weber and Seabrook)


I look at it like two teams that will still live in mediocrity and if they go to sell off Chicago walks away with a much better sell off. Dont think either team gets out of the lottery with the trade which means Chicago likely sells off Tatar = 1st round pick + back in a return. They probably sign Danault for another contract so they have 6 more years with him in thier top 6 and if they chose to move on from Weber there's another 1st round pick plus another asset.

So essentially MTL is giving up 4 first round picks for a player who doesnt get them over the hump and by the end of it probably only gets you a late 1st and a decent prospect back in a trade as long as you retain a big part of his contract.

Toews also isnt needed in MTL, they have thier future centers coming and Danult is a good cheap stop gap. It's a bad trade looking at the logistics for each team but it definitely has a better ending for Chicago because they get a good young prospect at 8th overall and they would get to sell of every other pieces for minimum 1st rounders. While MTL would be left outside the playoffs and only able to sell of Toews for a return that would likely be the same as Tatar unless you retain heavily on his contract .
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13 mai 2020 à 17 h 27
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I look at it like two teams that will still live in mediocrity and if they go to sell off Chicago walks away with a much better sell off. Dont think either team gets out of the lottery with the trade which means Chicago likely sells off Tatar = 1st round pick + back in a return. They probably sign Danault for another contract so they have 6 more years with him in thier top 6 and if they chose to move on from Weber there's another 1st round pick plus another asset.

So essentially MTL is giving up 4 first round picks for a player who doesnt get them over the hump and by the end of it probably only gets you a late 1st and a decent prospect back in a trade as long as you retain a big part of his contract.

Toews also isnt needed in MTL, they have thier future centers coming and Danult is a good cheap stop gap. It's a bad trade looking at the logistics for each team but it definitely has a better ending for Chicago because they get a good young prospect at 8th overall and they would get to sell of every other pieces for minimum 1st rounders. While MTL would be left outside the playoffs and only able to sell of Toews for a return that would likely be the same as Tatar unless you retain heavily on his contract .


Well said my good friend.
 
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