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12 mai 2020 à 15 h 22
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RFAs are figuring out they have leverage, whether it be a limited amount of years of control, or arbitration. You will overpay for 4 years and shouldn't want to walk him right to UFA
12 mai 2020 à 15 h 22
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
RFAs are figuring out they have leverage, whether it be a limited amount of years of control, or arbitration. You will overpay for 4 years and shouldn't want to walk him right to UFA


Do you think that 3.5 is good for 4 yrs?
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12 mai 2020 à 15 h 22
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thats not enough for an elite goal scorer
12 mai 2020 à 15 h 23
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Do you think that 3.5 is good for 4 yrs?


I think it will cost atleast 4
12 mai 2020 à 15 h 25
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Quoting: dartguy22
thats not enough for an elite goal scorer


Debrusk is not an elite scorer tears of joy
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12 mai 2020 à 15 h 30
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Id say around 4.5-5 mil
12 mai 2020 à 15 h 32
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
Debrusk is not an elite scorer tears of joy


Oh i know that, i just did it to see how many bruins fans would like my comment
12 mai 2020 à 15 h 39
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Quoting: dartguy22
Oh i know that, i just did it to see how many bruins fans would like my comment


I don't think you'll find a Bruins fan who defines him as an "elite scorer" but out of curiosity, what do you consider an elite scorer?
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12 mai 2020 à 15 h 42
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Doesnt 4 yrs take him straight to ufa? If so i dont think BOS would ever sign him at that term
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If you look at Johnsson and Kapanen contract in Toronto i think you have to look at that range. Probably a little bit more then johnsson a would say 4 millions would be fair enough. Can’t see him getting over that amount.
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12 mai 2020 à 15 h 43
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Quoting: dartguy22
thats not enough for an elite goal scorer


One season of 27 goals doesn't make him an elite goal scorer.
12 mai 2020 à 15 h 44
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Give him 3.75 or so for 2 years and if he gets more consistent then hit him for 5 years in the next contract
12 mai 2020 à 15 h 44
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
One season of 27 goals doesn't make him an elite goal scorer.


Quoting: dartguy22
Oh i know that, i just did it to see how many bruins fans would like my comment
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12 mai 2020 à 15 h 46
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Quoting: KennyBoi
Doesnt 4 yrs take him straight to ufa?


Yep 7 professional Nhl Years walk you to free agency.
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12 mai 2020 à 15 h 48
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This probably is not too far off, I'd say 4 million is more accurate.
12 mai 2020 à 15 h 53
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He probably isn't signing a four-year deal anyways but $4M+
12 mai 2020 à 15 h 57
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If you look at Johnsson and Kapanen contract in Toronto i think you have to look at that range. Probably a little bit more then johnsson a would say 4 millions would be fair enough. Can’t see him getting over that amount.


for 4 years, $4 million is probably fair. Now this is a very crude way to look at it, but Johnsson takes up 4.17% of Toronto's cap space. Over the last 3 seasons DeBrusk comes in at 0.59 P/GP with Johnsson coming in at 0.54 P/GP. So call it a 10% bump production wise per game. so 1.10*4.17% would bring it out to at $4.59 CH% and on $81.5 million that gives him a $3.74 cap hit. Add in DeBrusk being a better goal scorer based on P/GP and $4 million isn't unreasonable.
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12 mai 2020 à 15 h 59
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Quoting: ON3M4N
I don't think you'll find a Bruins fan who defines him as an "elite scorer" but out of curiosity, what do you consider an elite scorer?


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Debrusk is a scoring winger, you are wrong, he is right. It is a VERY even deal

quoting: ON3M4N▾

Per Hockey-Reference:

Since 2017-2018 among all LWer's (min 80gp)
Goals: 17th
G/GP: 22nd

Since 2017-2018 among all winger's (min 80gp)
Goals: 42nd
G/GP: 38th

If you don't think DeBrusk is a scoring winger, please define what the criteria is for a "scoring winger" in your opinion.


Quoting: bsilk18
Coyle and Carlo are low,
Debrusk is medium elite
Marchy low
Chara probably a bit high

Good job with the prospects! and everyone else

OVERALL: good job!







LOL
12 mai 2020 à 16 h 1
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Doesnt 4 yrs take him straight to ufa? If so i dont think BOS would ever sign him at that term


I think it does, but honestly, I think more teams should consider doing that. Or at the very least not immediately put it out of the question. A term that brings an RFA straight to UFA is the most beneficial term for a player. If a team is in a situation where they are tight to the cap, they could probably cut significant $$$ off the players AAV by offering them such a deal. A team like Tampa comes to mind here.
12 mai 2020 à 16 h 16
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League minimum. That isn’t a joke, it’s a dead serious answer. There isn’t even a .001% chance the bruins even discuss a 4 year deal with him because it takes him directly to UFA without buying out any UFA years. This is not a thing in the NHL. It does not happen. So I’m not even remotely joking when i say that if the debrusk camp came to don sweeney and said, “we’re only interested in a 4 year deal!” Sweeney would probably say, “fine, league min.” A deal that takes a player directly to UFA coming off their ELC is just not a concept in the NHL.

1-3 years is legit, 5-8 is legit. Let’s talk about that.

I think he gets 3 years at 4 million per if the cap stays the same.
12 mai 2020 à 16 h 17
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
I think it does, but honestly, I think more teams should consider doing that. Or at the very least not immediately put it out of the question. A term that brings an RFA straight to UFA is the most beneficial term for a player. If a team is in a situation where they are tight to the cap, they could probably cut significant $$$ off the players AAV by offering them such a deal. A team like Tampa comes to mind here.


The team would be happier to just let the player sign a 1 year deal, go to arb the next year, and then trade their RFA rights after getting six years out of the player.
12 mai 2020 à 16 h 18
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for 4 years, $4 million is probably fair. Now this is a very crude way to look at it, but Johnsson takes up 4.17% of Toronto's cap space. Over the last 3 seasons DeBrusk comes in at 0.59 P/GP with Johnsson coming in at 0.54 P/GP. So call it a 10% bump production wise per game. so 1.10*4.17% would bring it out to at $4.59 CH% and on $81.5 million that gives him a $3.74 cap hit. Add in DeBrusk being a better goal scorer based on P/GP and $4 million isn't unreasonable.

Cmon. 4 years just isn’t even on teh table. 3 years 4 million sounds very fair.
12 mai 2020 à 16 h 19
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Quoting: dartguy22
Quoting: bsilk18
Debrusk is a scoring winger, you are wrong, he is right. It is a VERY even deal

quoting: ON3M4N▾

Per Hockey-Reference:

Since 2017-2018 among all LWer's (min 80gp)
Goals: 17th
G/GP: 22nd

Since 2017-2018 among all winger's (min 80gp)
Goals: 42nd
G/GP: 38th

If you don't think DeBrusk is a scoring winger, please define what the criteria is for a "scoring winger" in your opinion.


Quoting: bsilk18
Coyle and Carlo are low,
Debrusk is medium elite
Marchy low
Chara probably a bit high

Good job with the prospects! and everyone else

OVERALL: good job!







LOL


Cmon man, i blocked that guy for a reason, you have to type out his whole post???
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12 mai 2020 à 16 h 22
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Cmon man, i blocked that guy for a reason, you have to type out his whole post???


sorry he said you wont find a bruins fan who thinks that, and he said it and the self proclaimed "most respected bruins fan on this site" had to expose
12 mai 2020 à 16 h 24
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
One season of 27 goals doesn't make him an elite goal scorer.


I certainly don’t think he is an elite scorer, but it is worth noting that he played 66 games in that season I believe. 9th in the league amongst left wingers in goals/60.

In his first two years he scored like a bat out of hell down the stretch to close the season. Certainly agree that he isn’t an elite goal scorer, and I can’t imagine anyone saying that, but he’s shown flashes of it.
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